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Alex Navalny dies in Russian prison at 47

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ursidman, Feb 16, 2024.

  1. cocodrilo

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    You've got it all wrong. It's Putin who works for the CIA. That's how the CIA controls Trump, through Putin, since Trump as president wouldn't even talk to the CIA. Now they have Trump so fooled that he thinks Putin as expected will interfere in some way with the 2024 election to help get him elected again. But is Trump in for a November surprise! It will be the world premier (in adult theaters and literally streaming TV channels) of "Golden Showers," starring Trump himself (though of course he will then claim that he was the victim and didn't do anything wrong). Of course this could actually backfire and help Trump get votes like all his other scandals. The CIA has blundered many times before.
     
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  2. mikemcd810

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    Not sure Chris Christie would get this many flowers

     
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  3. defensewinschampionships

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    Color me shocked.
     
  4. G8trGr8t

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    this..thread title needs to be amended
     
  5. obgator

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  6. exiledgator

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    It was a puzzling move. Obviously Navalny had reach outside of prison, but it was clear that killing him would make him a martyr. He was an immensely popular figure in Russia.

    Putin inches his populace closer to revolt with these types of actions.
     
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  7. vegasfox

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    Gonzalo Lira:s last video. He died in a Ukrainian prison for practicing free speech and reporting on Biden and Zelensky's corruption. The State Dept let him rot in prison for 8+ months. They had all the leverage needed to bring this US citizen home. He was tortured and he died of pneumonia. Biden and Nuland did this.

     
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  8. uftaipan

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    Oh, well, if “military expert” Scott Ritter says so, we should listen.
     
  9. citygator

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    For a people who supposedly can handle hardships they sure do bow down to an oppressive state easily. Seems like they dont have the courage to be free.
     
  10. exiledgator

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    Oh, they still handle hardship, you just have to remember it's a very different culture. The social contract the people have with Putin's Russia is: You're free to do what you want with your life, make money, etc - you just don't cross the into politics. You stay out of our business and we'll be sure to keep things "stable". This is following generations of Russians living under oppressive Soviet rule. The end result is you have a populous that views challenging their government the exact opposite way as the French.

    EDIT to add: This war stresses that social contract as Putin's Russia isn't holding up their end of the bargain. Assassinating popular polital opposition will only make people further question their adherance to the contract.
     
  11. staticgator

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    This is what Republicans want.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    The always on point, Anne Applebaum:

    Why Russia Killed Navalny — The Atlantic


    Alexei Navalny returned to Russia in January 2021. Right before he boarded the plane, he posted a film titled “Putin’s Palace: The Story of the World’s Largest Bribe” on YouTube. The video, nearly two hours long, was an extraordinary feat of investigative reporting. Using secret plans, drone footage, 3-D visualizations, and the testimony of construction workers, Navalny’s video told the story of a hideous $1.3 billion Black Sea villa containing every luxury that a dictator could imagine: a hookah bar, a hockey rink, a helipad, a vineyard, an oyster farm, a church. The video also described the eye-watering costs and the financial trickery that had gone into the construction of the palace on behalf of its true owner, Vladimir Putin
    Navalny is now presumed dead. The Russian prison system has said he collapsed after months of ill health and mistreatment. Perhaps he was murdered more directly, but the details don’t matter: The Russian state killed him. Putin killed him—because of his political success, because of his ability to reach people with the truth, and because of his talent for breaking through the fog of propaganda that now blinds his countrymen, and some of ours as well.

    That Putin still feared Navalny was already clear in December, when the regime moved him to a distant arctic prison to stop him from communicating with his friends and his family. He had been in touch with many people; I have seen some of his prison messages, sent secretly via lawyers, policemen, and guards, just as Gulag prisoners once sent messages in Stalin’s Soviet Union. He remained the spirit behind the Anti-Corruption Foundation, a team of Russian exiles who continue to investigate Russian corruption and continue to tell the truth to Russians, even from abroad. (I have served on the foundation’s advisory board). Earlier this week, before his alleged collapse, he sent a Valentine’s Day message to his wife, Yulia, on Telegram: “I feel that you are there every second, and I love you more and more.”
     
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  13. sierragator

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    For the Putin apologists and enablers: Don't kid yourselves. Putin despises the USA and everything the USA stands for. Given the chance, he would destroy us in a heartbeat if he thought he would get away with it. The hope is he has not convinced himself that he would somehow survive and prevail in a nuclear conflict with the west, which at times it seems like that may be his end game. Fingers crossed.
     
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  14. vegasfox

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    This:

     
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  15. mikemcd810

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    Well if RealPepeEscobar says so...
     
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  16. G8trGr8t

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    They were free under Gorbachev when their economy was in ruins. Like china, they appear to be willing to trade freedom for security i
     
  17. vegasfox

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    Putin wanted to be our friend. He wanted Russia to join NATO.
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    Stop ptojecting

    You're a victim of the Infowars and psy-ops your own gov't ran against you. I'm sorry they did this to you and the rest of the posters here.
     
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  20. ursidman

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    Alexei Anatolyevich Navalny died of complications due to advanced age.

    Yes, 47 is quite elderly for those that oppose Putin.