Rashida Tlaibb votes present rather than condemn rape as weapon of war

The point was which you apparently missed is that while the House had time to take up a purely symbolic bill they completed punted or at least their MAGA majority under the direction of the Orange god and his puppet from Louisiana the nominal Speaker refuses to address the significant substantive issue of immigration.

 

Tell me what is was about.

I thought the Senate bill was bipartisan. Not so?

As for "being a blind cheerleader for one side," projection from Trump supporters has become so tiresome on this forum that it's not amusing anymore.

 

First, it had money going to Ukraine and Israel... why does an immigration bill have any of that?
Second, it allowed 5k daily crossing before any "alarm" went off.
Third, it gave Biden power to override any of it anyhow...

And yet people are shocked it was DoA.

 

So you are mad because house republicans didn't bend the knee... got it.

Why can't both sides come up with a bill that is purely about immigration reform that tackles both processing of these individuals AND secures the border?

 

This is largely lacking in context or untrue. The aid was because Republicans refused to discuss aid without a border bill. Now they are trying to use the nonsensical nature of their own demands against the bill they demanded.

Second, the bill requires shut down at 5,000 entries per day. The only area where there is discretion is between 4,00-5,000 entries per day. So both of your other statements were not true.

 

We adhere to the Geneva Conventions for war crimes and these kinds of assaults are already condemned in the actual enforceable international laws. What does this House Resolution really seek to accomplish?

 

What you call "bending the knee" would be allowing the vote on an immigration bill described by Senate Republicans as the most significant bill dealing with security at the border (paraphrasing not an exact quote) in decades and endorsed by the union representing Border Patrol agents which according to the head of the union would significantly reduce illegal encounters at the border.
Border Patrol union backs Senate immigration bill despite House GOP opposition
Lankford Releases Border Security Package With Huge Wins for Securing the Border - Senator James Lankford

The reason that MAGA Mike under the direction of Deranged Donald will not allow a vote on immigration bill by the full House is because they know it will be pass and will take away an issue that the Orange one intends on using as one of the key planks in his election campaign platform.

 

Detroit has a very significant Muslim population and she is actually Palestinian. Color me not surprised.

 

so she should be butthurt and refuse to recognize the fact that hamas used rape as a weapon? nope. that isn't kowtowing, just acknowledging the reality

 

like anybody that voted for Trump or MTG should be sent to live with Putin?

 

tell that to the 20 pub senators, the US Chamber of Commerce, and so many others from both sides that crafted it, supported it, and declared it the most comprehensive and restrictive immigration bill in decades. You need to get out of the trump cult

 

they bent the knee to the orange one, nothing else matters to them.

 

You libs are so obsessed with CNN inspired Putin propaganda. Try some independent thought for one in your life.

 

Perhaps. However, if you believe that millions of Americans can be fooled by media propaganda, what makes you think you are different?

 

Framing her as a supporter of rape as a weapon is disingenuous.

 

One could however infer that her motive for voting "present" was because she didn't think that the atrocities committed by Hamas including the use of rape as a weapon weren't as significant as the acts of the IDF in Gaza.

 

None of us is immune to propaganda, however, when you constantly refer to completely fabricated MSNBC driven propaganda (Russian Collusion in this case) as fact it makes me question if you have the ability to decipher truth from fiction. I insulate myself from propaganda from not getting my news from Tik Tok. I read lots of history and current affairs books from different perspectives. No I don't watch the sensationalized Fox news. It's obvious to me who toes the media line when I read these various posts. They repeat whatever they are supposed to repeat and act like it's fact. It's actually sad to see.

 

Do you think that sharing internal campaign documents with the Russian government that would be useful in targeting advertising (which they were doing) counts as colluding with Russia?

 

I haven't seen credible evidence that this actually happened. What I never understood is why democrats think that Russia would prefer a stronger America? Currently with this administration you call racism or anti trans and people find that more important than anything. We are weaker as a nation which is why there is so much conflict in the world currently. People rightly do not respect Biden or Harris. They may not respect Trump either but they fear him.

 

To my lights, this is a pretty good answer. We can never be fully conscious of our biases, but exposing ourselves to diverse perspectives, as you are, might at least help to curb them.

I worry about the influence of identity on cognition. Once one passionately identifies with a tribe, it can become difficult maintain a cognition that is independent of that of the tribe. If it appears to one that right or left wing arguments are superior 90%+ of the time, I think this is a sure fire sign of tribal bias. Unfortunately, while this rule of thumb helps to identify the problem, it hardly points a way to solution, leaving unsolved the question of exactly which chunks of our tribe’s arguments should we reject.

I think the most rational stance in response to this problem is to hold all our views more lightly. Maybe that other side is completely brainwashed, but chances are some of their views are worth taking seriously.