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Radical GOP governors; feeding children is bad policy

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Dec 30, 2023.

  1. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I find it off that YOU are the one underplaying it and accuse me.

    I have never said a bad word about secular charity work. Nor will I.

    Dont conflate my stating the facts about religious work as me ripping secular work. That is a leap that has no landing.
     
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  2. swampbabe

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    Not underplaying religious charity at all.

    One quibble though, I don’t think that a church donating to Second Harvest makes Second Harvest a religious organization. It’s a donation just like a donation from any other source.
     
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  3. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    If more than 70% of their funding comes from churches than Im not sure I see the point.

    Also it should be noted, it was originally called: St. Mary's Food Bank Alliance.

    It is not uncommon to drop religious verbage in the non profit sector so as to not make people think they have to follow a religion to be fed.
     
  4. swampbabe

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    Let me see if I can articulate my point better.

    My daughter works for a non profit and sometimes they get donations from churches. That does not make them a religious organization.

    My neighborhood does a big food drive at Christmas and what we collect goes to a neighbor’s church’s food pantry but not everyone that donated is a member of that congregation.

    I think that there is a lot of cross pollination between the secular and the religious in terms of private social services. Instead of trying to claim “credit” maybe we should just be glad that folks are trying to help the less fortunate among us.
     
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  5. tilly

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    Im not trying to take credit, but I am going to always remind people. This world would be much worse without the work of faith based organizations. And some folks here tend to discount that
     
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  6. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    Organized religion has many problems. Charity work is on the other side of the ledger.
     
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  7. cocodrilo

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    IOW all that he or she believes in is Donald Trump, who is certainly in the running for "meanest and least sympathetic person on earth."
     
  8. GatorJMDZ

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    Mississippi is the latest state to join the "we won't let you abort them so we can starve them" club.

    Mississippi's republican governor has rejected a federal program that would give low income families meeting the eligibility criteria an extra $40 month in benefits for the 3 months when school was out of session for the summer.

    “The cruelty of being the poorest state in America and choosing – choosing – to turn down federal aid for poor children to eat,” remarked Nikole Hannah-Jones in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter."

    "Keith Boykin, author, and co-founder of the National Black Justice Coalition, pointed out that funds allocated for welfare in Mississippi have been directed towards extraneous projects, such as the construction of a sports stadium."

    “Mississippi gave millions of dollars of welfare funds to former NFL quarterback Brett Favre to build a volleyball facility for his daughter’s school, but they won’t take federal funds to feed hungry children. Because helping poor kids is the kind of welfare that Republicans hate,” stated Keith Boykin on X, formerly known as Twitter."

    MSN

    This governor can go rot in "you know where."
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    Nebraska governor changed his mind. Hopefully others will realize their foolishness and do the same

    Republican Governor Flips, Takes $18 Million (msn.com)

    Republican Nebraska Governor Jim Pillen announced on Monday that he is reversing course and accepting federal funds for the USDA's expanded Summer EBT program.

    Approximately 150,000 kids (grades K-12) in the Cornhusker State are eligible for free and reduced-price lunches at school; now they will receive $40 EBT cards for each summer month, too, when school is not in session. A total of $18 million will be spent on the food program in Nebraska.

    After initially rejecting the program and telling a reporter he “doesn’t believe in welfare,” Pillen told 10/11 NOW that he was influenced by the conversations he had with kids who told him they sometimes went hungry and didn’t have enough access to food during summer break.

    "When you sit down with kids who are living it, you learn life lessons," Pillen said. "I learned we have to do better for them."
     
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  10. gatorpa

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    I treated many of those in the ER, once a disability “doctor” signs off and it’s approved it becomes hard to prove a fraud.
    Gov workers don’t really get paid to remove people from disability either.
    Private sector will spend the money to prove someone is faking it however.
     
  11. BLING

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    Actually they do. My father was federal law enforcement, and during one of his stints where his assignments were inspector general/internal affairs he got some of these cases. He had some stories about how brazen people would be! Like… they didn’t even try to hide. So many times they were easy to bust. Every agency in government probably has an “inspector general” that handles these sorts of fraud investigations. Of course I think in his case he was strictly investigating government employees as far as “internal fraud”.

    Whether it’s public or private sector it requires someone to tip off the fraud. If you are aware of blatant fraud there is a tip-line with the social security administration which I assume applies for “reporting” Joe Citizen. I saw a thing on the news years ago about how pervasive the issue is, I recall it was focused on Kentucky and Appalachia particularly - how many folks up there claim “disability” esp in the more rural areas. It’s quite a disgrace. Doubly disgraceful is these are some of the very same people who vote against urban welfare programs while they are themselves defrauding the govt.
     
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  12. cocodrilo

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    The one bad thing about feeding children is that it helps them grow up to be adults. There are so many bad results. I guess you just have to feed them and hope for the best.