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Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Feb 13, 2024.

  1. akaGatorhoops

    akaGatorhoops GC Columnist VIP Member

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    We have seen it a few times… when opposition switches defense, we grind to a halt. We gotta get some sets against different zones, as opposed to banging our heads against the wall.

    We gotta figure this out.

    Clayton said it post game… it’s better to learn from a win. Let’s do it.

    go gators
     
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  2. gogators73

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    Clayton also acknowledged the zone issue. I’d hope they watch that a lot before the trip to Athens on Saturday.
     
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  3. outbackjack

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    Golden is aware. He’ll figure it out.
     
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  4. oragator1

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    Good news is that MW is almost as averse to zone as TG is.
     
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  5. akaGatorhoops

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    They gotta do more than watch. They gotta run some offense to attack the zone. We continue to run our man sets and just fall apart.
    Mike White will absolutely throw a 1-3-1 at us.
     
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  6. akaGatorhoops

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    he liked the 1-3-1 when he had personnel. I think we will see it.
     
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  7. oragator1

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    We will see it, but likely not til they are down and he has to.

    but I have made this point here for years, one of the advantages of having a serviceable zone defense is that your offense has to practice against it. We got whammed twice tonight. We didn’t have a zone as a switch up, and our offense didn’t know how to play against one because they don’t see it in practice.
     
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  9. RD_gator

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    Here is Mike White's Florida team playing a 1-3-1 zone defense:



    Also, Billy Donovan's 2014 Florida team (vs Kansas) playing similarly that same defense:


    I wish that Todd Golden will go from strictly man-to-man defense and employ some type of zone press to slow down the opposition. That would be the wrinkle I would like to see some time.
     
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  11. WESGATORS

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    Interesting that coach described the problem of attacking the zone as being related to not playing defense effectively and getting stops to go the other way (making it harder for them to get set up). The real problem tonight was second half FT defense was subpar (10/14), really a morale breaker.

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
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  12. akaGatorhoops

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    In the post game, he did specifically say he needs to get the team to execute better against the zone.
     
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  13. akaGatorhoops

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    I didn’t understand that comment. Allowing a team to score obviously precludes transition offense… but it typically doesn’t prevent you from getting “set up” in the half court.
     
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  14. number1

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    Really would like to hear his justification for not switching things up. lol
     
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    Could part of the problem be that we don’t play any zone ourselves, and therefore don’t practice much against it?

    I don’t think we’ve played zone once since TG has been coach, but it would help us do it against the opposing team to prevent the lead from shrinking so much.
     
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  16. GatorPlanet

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    A coach would be insane to not at least try zone for a while against us. The tape don't lie.
     
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  17. GatorPlanet

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    We scheduled an early non-conference game against a zone team (I don't remember the team) purely for the experience of playing against a zone. We did pretty well against it but it was a team without SEC athletes, so the takeaway wasn't probably all that great.
     
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  18. outbackjack

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    It does…..watching the first half, check out how many of our baskets come off of defensive rebounds, flying up the court, and controlling the possession before they can fully get set. It’s really hard to set up a nice D zone when transitioning back in action. There would be multiple holes…..
    Therefore, zones get set up properly when they have time to set them up……aka after a made basket, particularly after made free throw
     
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    while that was not good, the real problem was not hitting the same shots we were making in the 1st half (mid-range jumpers)
     
  20. murphree_hall

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    1-3-1 defense is nice, but man as a player I cringe when a coach or a team wants to run it, because I'm always put at the high position and basically sprinting from side to side to execute the traps. It's basically a trapping defense.

    But to the subject, beating a zone isn't hard. It's very simple, actually. Every zone has it's soft parts. When I play zone, I actually prefer "hybrid" 2-3 zone which is a matchup zone. Basically, you guard anyone in your zone like it's man to man, but you just don't follow the person when they leave the zone... unless they overload a zone, then the defender slides with them. Essentially, in a matchup zone, you are never just "guarding a space". You're always guarding someone.
     
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