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Don't want to bring the COVID thread back to the top Just have a question.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Feb 11, 2024.

  1. Gator515151

    Gator515151 GC Hall of Fame

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    Me and my immediate family made it through 2020 2021 & 2022 without an incident of COVID. So enter the last half of 2023, my wife and I both got COVID in August and all 3 of my sons and their families caught it in late January.

    Legitimate question here, is COVID more common now, just not being pushed as much by the media? It just seems strange that 4 branches of the same family having no physical contact with each other at the time of infection would all get it at about the same time after being Covid free for 3 1/2 years.
     
  2. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

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    We've had several mini-bursts of Covid in the past year. The vaccine is 94% effective though, so it's just a matter of time before it gets snuffed out for good. Keep your booster shots up to date. Mask up and make sure you are following social distancing protocols. I think you may be in a higher risk class, so you may want to consider an N95 mask. A bubble if you want maximum protection.
     
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  3. citygator

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    It’s going around at my work.
     
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  4. gatorchamps960608

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    A combination of the media losing interest and fear of the deranged anti-vaxxers like Q here.

    My vaccinated and boosted wife got it for the third time last month. She works in a school.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    Good thing she took at least three shots! They really worked well. I am sure you believe she would have been on deaths door if she had not taken them…o_O:confused::):D:devil::ninja3:
     
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    NIAGARA FALLS! Slowly, I turned. Step by step...
     
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  7. GatorRade

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    I think what Okee’s condescending post misses is that COVID is no longer a novel disease and is not being treated like one. It was long suspected by most scientists that we’d have COVID with us indefinitely. So it appears.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    Okee’s post misses nothing really. We botched this thing. And trying to blame the insanity in this being a novel virus does not pass the smell test.

    We just had a poster tell me that if we did not spend the money/do the lockdowns/all the insane things we did. That we would lose 5-10% of our population. They then tried to back up and say that 5-10% was based on the early days of Italy. Which is even more ridiculous considering we knew case fatality rates and ages of those dying. Any public health official/epidemiologist worth anything could see this. But we silenced those who tried to get reality out (Great Barrington Declaration for example). The censoring to push the propaganda was at a crazy level. And they cried wolf so bad that now we could have a real problem if we do end up with a serious disease one day. The few destroyed and caused generational damage to the trust in public health.
     
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  9. PITBOSS

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    maybe let’s leave this thread to medically backed covid info. It might actually help some people. We know you’re an anti vaxer. Maybe we can get a few other inputs.
     
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  10. GatorJMDZ

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    How well did your natural immunity work out for you?

    And election denier. Tells you ALL you need to know. Lock your doors.
     
  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    I know a few (3) people that had never had it that got it in the last 4 weeks. The newest strain is apparently taking down a lot of the people who had been seemingly immune up to this point.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    A 16 year old kid I work with got it last week. Had to be hospitalized for several days but is back home now. Not the demographic you expect to be hit hard by Covid but hit hard he was.
     
  13. GatorRade

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    I think this point is a bit orthogonal to 51’s question, which I took to be about media coverage today.

    As for point, I don’t think you and I are going to agree because we seem to have fundamentally different approaches to decision making under uncertainty. You seem to value outcomes over process, and I am the opposite. If someone babysits my kid and I come home to find the kid happily playing in the street, I’m not happy about this. Even though the kid is fine, this outcome doesn’t justify the bad process. Now maybe after living somewhere for years, you come to understand your street is simply not dangerous for play. But let’s imagine it’s a novel street none of us has been on. What precautions should we take? What if we have scientists telling us the last 10 streets were all safe, so you shouldn’t worry about this one? Frankly, I’m just not going to be ok putting my kid in the street in this scenario, regardless of the science. The stakes are too high.

    Again, I realize you don’t employ the same approach to risk management. For you, it was clear evidently from day 1 that this novel disease could not be harmful. That’s possible, but I don’t have as much faith in empirical science, as this kind of science is simply difficult to get right. We’ve made all kinds of mistakes in this arena, eg suggesting margarine is better than butter, only to realize we hadn’t yet the data to make such a claim. I am happy to accept that your approach is not without merit. Sometimes we have to trust our scientists. However, I don't think my approach is without merit either.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    Sure. If you looked at the data. You would have known what the censored said in the beginning was correct.
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    No different than those that took the shot. And the disease itself was very mild. Unlike many of those who took the shot. But that really is not why…
     
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  16. okeechobee

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    I forgot about shelter-in-place. That is one step between an N95 and a bubble he could take. I did not mean this to be condescending. I'm a Dr. Fauci fanboy.
     
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  17. Gator515151

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    I think that was the point of the question in my OP thanks. It was just kind of shocking to me that none of my sons had got it then all 3 of them got it within a couple of weeks with no direct contact with each other and add to that the fact I went 3 1/2 years without getting it and caught it in the last 6 months just sorta seemed strange to me.
     
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  18. Gator515151

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    Although I see the comedy in most of your post I do strongly agree with one point. I am in the higher risk class. There is very little doubt it would have killed men had I not let my wife's relatives in Missouri talk me into going to the hospital. Although the hospital in Mo missed covid in the original diagnosis had they not treated me for congestive heart failure and COPD before letting me return to Orlando on oxygen I probably would not have made it home. It was Advent Health in Orlando that discovered it was COVID that kicked off the congestive heart failure.
     
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    How do you know you got Covid ?
     
  20. Gator515151

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    If you are asking me, the hospital in Boliver Mo never gave me a COVID test. The original tests they did showed congestive heart failure, that is what they treated me for. They did not want to release me after 5 days but we told them we had airline tickets home and didn't want to miss the flight. They sent me home on oxygen. The next day I was still struggling so the wife took me to Advent Health and the first thing they did was do a COVID test. It was positive. The fact I had the same symptoms as when they had taken me to the hospital in Mo we figured it was COVID all along that kicked off the Congestive Heart Failure.