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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Trickster, Jan 26, 2024.

  1. AzCatFan

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    And the Israel border is 1/5 the size of the US border with Mexico. How successful have they been at patrolling it?
     
  2. ATLGATORFAN

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    Shifting Patterns and Policies Reshape Migration to U.S.-Mexico Border in Major Ways in 2023

    The family encounters in FY 2023 were predominantly of Mexicans, Hondurans, and Guatemalans, with the numbers increasing steadily after the termination of Title 42. Nationals from these countries had been disproportionately subject to Title 42, with 68 percent of expulsions in FY 2023 of Mexicans, Hondurans, and Guatemalans. Arrivals of Mexican families in particular have reached unprecedented levels.
     
  3. oragator1

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    Canada doesn’t have the issue of all of central and even South America or Asia’s refugees on their southern border either.
     
  4. AzCatFan

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    Not sure how this relates to my post. I was only saying that our issues are far more complicated because of our proximity to poorer nations. Canada has the ability to have a much cleaner, choosier system. We have to balance massive asylum claims against job needs and other legal immigration. Plus the massive illegal immigrant problem we have that they don’t.
     
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    The article didn't distinguish "encounters" based on requests for asylum from apprehensions for attempting to enter the US illegally. It's still my assertion that the very few of the Mexicans were requesting asylum. I would also note applicants for asylum aren't expelled until their requests are adjudicated and they are denied. My guess is that the overwhelming majority of Mexicans were expelled based on illegal entry.
     
  7. AzCatFan

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    When we had a cleaner system, during the Bracero years, we had a lot less encounters at the border. It's not the perfect solution, but why can't we try it again?
     
  8. philnotfil

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    So if we annex Mexico, not only do we get a lot of great beachfront properties, we also get a shorter border to manage? Win-Win!
     
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    Good luck with that
     
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  13. ATLGATORFAN

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    all fair points. My contention is that the asylum claim is knowingly phony and anyone from Mexico requesting asylum should be rejected immediately for the reason I posted earlier. But they aren’t and are flooding the system as the article stated. They are admitted because removal of ‘remain in Cabo’ policy and given hearings years later of which they are either planning on not attending or taking their chances. Which going to my original point. Current admin cannot purposely blow up the border for 3 years then claim in an election year you are interested in border control, which based on actions taken they clearly aren’t.
     
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    So much educating to be done, so little capacity to understand.
     
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    The title of this column by Tom Friedman says it all about the modern Republican Party.
    The G.O.P. Bumper Sticker: Trump First. Putin Second. America Third

    Ronald Reagan must be rolling in his grave. The Republican Party has devolved from a political party led by an admired politician who embraced America's role as leader of the free world and warned us of the Evil Empire to a party led by a charismatic demagogue willing to sell out a European country invaded by the newest incarnation of that empire to score a few political points.
     
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  16. FutureGatorMom

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    Has there ever been someone influencing our policy makers from outside like this? It reminds of how the tea party was able to pull a double standard with supreme court justices. We are all hostages of the radicals. Pisses me off frankly.
     
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    Why does the GOP always blow every bipartisan immigration bill then claim that the Dems don't care about the border? The most recent bill had a ton of their wish list items.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    Biden didn't start the current peak at the border. It started in 2019. That's when things in Venezuela became so bad, people starting emigrating in droves. It's also when Trump froze aid to several C. American countries. When people can't survive in their home country, they move to place where they have the opportunity to eek out a living.

    2020 would have had a higher number of encounters and detentions at the border if it weren't for the pandemic. As it is, the numbers show the average of 2020 and 2021 actually lower in these metrics than 2019, which is likely because the pandemic caused people all over the globe to shelter in place. I posit that if the pandemic never happened, we would have seen a small percentage increase in border encounters in 2020 - 2022 instead of the huge dip in 2020 followed by a spike in 2021 and peak in 2022.

    This doesn't absolve Biden. But the problem isn't one any POTUS has been able to solve in over 60 years. That's because we haven't tried the one thing that might actually help, which is an expanded guest worker program like we did with the Bracero Program. Everything Trump tried didn't stop a wave of immigrants coming in 2019. How is that on Biden?
     
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    Because they aren't serious about governing. They are just in it for the money and the power.

    Edit: The democrats are also in it for the money and the power, but they are at least willing to try and do the job that comes with it.
     
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  20. mikemcd810

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    The post you quoted is exhibit A. Because they can do it and still have their supporters blame the other side.