I'm against puberty blockers or any sort of pre-pubescent surgery. How anyone could claim definitively that they identify as the gender contrary to their biological organs BEFORE they go through puberty is beyond me. After? Sure. Do we need laws for this? I tend to think not. Keep the government out of any personal healthcare decisions.
Not sure. I don't know how much weight medical professionals do put or should put on discussions with a patient at age 7 versus age 17, for example. I know from other threads that young children have been prescribed puberty blockers (not for gender dysphoria but for precocious puberty) for some time.
Have you tried asking people who are transgender? I knew I was heterosexual before I went through puberty. Did you not have a sense of your own identity before puberty? But we can at least agree that the government should stay out of it.
Well, what do we do when "gender affirming care" places are pushing these kids to get puberty blockers or surgery? I think once you turn 18 if you want to change sexes, then go for it but don't use taxpayer funds for it.
One of our jobs as a parent is to protect our children from rash decisions. Transitioning is such a decision in my mind. I don't know what the magic age is, but it's certainly not before 16.
I don't think I need to ask one. I know from my own experience that I didn't come close to fully understanding myself or my sexuality or what it means to be a man until I became one. And that happened after puberty.
Nobody is asking if you fully understood these things. You didn't have any crushes on girls before you went through puberty? Seems to me if you want to understand another person's experiences, the best way to do that is to seek it out. Studies have found that most trans people first begin experiencing gender dysphoria well before puberty. Most Gender Dysphoria Established by Age 7 | Cedars-Sinai
Sorry did not read the thread. Did read the article. There are 4 people in my neighborhood the same age as my daughter that were girls & are now boys. 4 in 1 neighborhood. Don't know what's going on, but I doubt all 4 are trans. oh yeah & back in fla my 14 yo "niece" has declared that they are non-binary. Also, saw Lydia Loveless Fri (amazing!)....she's now a they too.
I think trying to cram everything undesirable under the transphobic umbrella is lazy & ultimately harmful to children. I don't see how it's transphobic to consider that there might be other things going on.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. The part the OP quote describes people who transitioned when they wanted to, then some detransition when they wanted to, so it seems they were getting the care they wanted. The last paragraph talks about how they don't get support from trans groups after they detransitioned (which kind of makes sense to me), and "nobody tells their story", which isn't really a medical problem .... I mean, the stats I've read say only about 3% of trans people change their minds and decide to permanently "detransistion", so my take is that 97% are getting the help they wanted and happy with it, which is pretty good results in the med field.
I did not read beyond this b/c this makes my pt. care is about what these kids need, not what they want. ex. 14 yo, I want to die. professional doesn't shoot them or give em a pamphlet on how to off themselves.
I'm not sure what we're supposed to do with this. What's the broader point here? Medicine and mental health care are imperfect. How are you recommending we as a society proceed?
My wife is very smart & pretty liberal. Her take is there is an underlying problem with a lot of teens/kids who are NOT trans & yet want to be another sex/gender (& in many cases may think they are trans). We need to address their problems too. Every girl who thinks they are guy & vice versa is not trans. But, that does not mean that they do not have serious issues that need addressing.
I think there is more to it than a kid saying "I want that"... parents and doctors have to agree and follow medical guidelines. If you had read the part you didn't read, I make the point that 97% seem to be happy with their decision... how much better than that can it get? The example given above says the person decided to detransition from a man because he felt "too short" and didn't look like a believable male, not because he decided he really was a woman after all and made a mistake. Not sure how his future feelings could be predicted or handled.
