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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. ajoseph

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    and how proud you are of your murderous leader. Have some more vodka and celebrate the death, destruction and dispair that your army has wreaked, and slap the tens of thousands of Russian widows on the back as they pointlessly mourn the dismemberment of their husbands. All for nothing more than the senseless megalomania of your leader.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    According to the Quincey Institute for Responsible Statecraft, Putin needs to invade about forty more countries to compete with Lee Greenwood Land.
     
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  3. ajoseph

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    #Whataboutism
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  4. duggers_dad

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    #Proportionism
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    #OpenEyesToPainfulTruths
     
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  5. chemgator

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    You mean, they all agree that they do not want a bullet to the head, a free trip to a Siberian penal colony, or a fall off of a balcony? It's amazing how unified they are! Must be great leadership!
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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    Z caught in a hard spot telling the world that the war will not last forever if they receive proper aid and his general, wildly popular in Ukraine, tells the world that they are at a stalemate.

    Zelenskiy Asked Ukraine’s Top General to Quit and He Refused (msn.com)


    Zaluzhnyi’s removal “will be deeply unpopular across the Ukrainian military,” Michael Kofman, a specialist on Russia and Ukraine at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said Tuesday on the War on the Rocks podcast. “I am not sure how appointing someone new fixes any of these big questions on mobilization, on what the Ukrainian strategy should be.”

    At a meeting with Zaluzhnyi and Defense Minister Rustem Umerov at his office in Kyiv Monday, Zelenskiy discussed the situation on the battlefield as Russia has shifted back to the offensive, the people said. Zelenskiy wants to prevent the Russian occupation of large swaths of eastern and southern Ukraine from turning into a frozen conflict, the people said.
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    The US wants Ukraine to sharpen its plan and believes that differences between Zaluzhnyi and Zelenskiy are slowing down decision making, people familiar with the matter said earlier this month. Any split between the president’s team and his military brass only benefits Russia, according to a former British official who worked closely with the Ukrainian government during the early part of the war.

    At the same time, opposition politicians have tried to capitalize on the tension, showering Zaluzhnyi with support on social media and television, including channels linked to former President Petro Poroshenko. Concerns of a potential rivalry with Zaluzhnyi deepened within Zelenskiy’s camp after the army chief appointed a member of Poroshenko’s party as his close aide last year.
     
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  7. chemgator

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    So much fear in your soul. By the way, your spelling is very good for someone quivering and shivering under his desk. So much fear of the master Putin and what he might do if the west "provokes" him and denies him the secure feeling of possessing his neighbors' land. We must appease him and turn a blind eye to the murder and mayhem! We must look inward and fix America's ditches and fences! Only use the small map of the United States, pretend there are no other countries, and nothing bad will happen in our world! Our consumer products will magically show up at the ports, and we will live happily ever after!
     
  8. ajoseph

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    #Inanity
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  9. chemgator

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    You won't get anywhere trying to talk sense to him. He's out of his mind, and he likes it that way. He just wants to get a rise out of people. It's best to disengage after putting him in his place. Don't tell him I told you this.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    I gather (by all the many dislikes) that my devious plan is working.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Zelensky is facing open defiance in his own inner circle. He acted to sack his senior general who said “just try it.” And the general he selected as replacement said “no thanks.”

    There is much speculation that Zelensky himself will be out soon. Whatever happened to visions of Zelensky striding up the Kremlin steps to arrest Putin ?
     
  12. studegator

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    no doubt, the invasion by Russia has created consequences
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    We've been hearing about the "Ruble collapsing" for almost two years now. Ruble is at a six month high versus the USD currently. Just more propaganda...
     
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    You mean, in the sense we’ve been hearing that Ukraine is going to collapse, like, any day for two years? A great Russian offensive is coming that is going to sweep the AFU off the battlefield, so the only hope is for Ukraine to surrender great swathes of land now, right?

    You may not want to understand that Putin planned this “special military operation” to last no more than two months, complete the conquest of Ukraine, and link up with the Russian majority in Transnistria. But surely even if you’re willfully blind to what Russia’s original intentions were, you can see that this is not the war Putin had in mind when he gave the order two years ago.
     
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    Thoughts and prayers Putin. You too Duggers.

    The E.U. agrees on a new $54 billion aid package for Ukraine despite Hungary’s veto threat


    The leaders of the 27 European Union countries sealed a deal Thursday to provide Ukraine with a new 50-billion-euro ($54 billion) support package for its war-ravaged economy despite weeks of threats from Hungary to veto the move.

    European Council President Charles Michel announced the agreement that was reached in the first hour of a summit he was chairing in Brussels.


    “We have a deal,” Michel said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. He said the agreement “locks in steadfast, long-term, predictable funding for Ukraine,” and demonstrated that the “EU is taking leadership and responsibility in support for Ukraine; we know what is at stake.”

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy welcomed it as a “very important” decision.
     
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  16. G8trGr8t

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    another Corvette converted to an artificial reef. you can see shots hitting the water as the drone approached. looks like they had multiple drones. the end shows the ship going down, they must have had multiple drones in the area.

    wonder if this will prompt another massive missile attack soon

    Ukraine Claims It Sunk Russia Navy Ship, Shares Footage of the Strike (businessinsider.com)

    Ukrainian forces claim to have sunk a Russian Black Sea Fleet warship in Crimea using home-developed naval drones, sharing spectacular footage that appears to show the attack.

    Overnight on January 31, special unit "Group 13" attacked the hull of the Ivanovets, a Russian corvette stationed at Lake Donuzlav in north-west Crimea, Defense Intelligence of Ukraine said in a Telegram post on Thursday.

     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    interesting sensors they have on this drone. What do you think this image at 1:01 is ? Engine room?


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  18. G8trGr8t

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    another SU34 vs patriot ends badly for the airplane. between the ship and the plane, it was an expensive week.

    Putin’s £40 Million Bomber Downed in Eastern Ukraine Ambush (msn.com)

    In a significant blow to Vladimir Putin’s military campaign, a £40 million Su-34 bomber was shot down in an ambush in eastern Ukraine.

    The Soviet twin-engine aircraft fell over the Luhansk region, as confirmed by Ukrainian military spokesperson Andrii Kovalyov.
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    Pomp and circumstance to be followed by hand-wringing over having given away their weapons and so what happens when Russian landing craft converge on Barton-on-Sea, Hampshire.
     
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