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Trump's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. tampagtr

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    Yeah I think the threat is correct I will come down to whether they have the courage to do something unpopular with at least a big part of their base. But the legal case appears to be very strong
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    Here's a link to another amicus brief filed on behalf of several historians presenting a compelling argument as to why the 14th Amendment applies to Trump. Among their points was that the President is an officer within the meaning of the Section 3 of the 14 Amendment; the disqualification language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is intended to be self-executing, it doesn't require the enactment of a specific statute by Congress; and finally it was intended to be prospective and not just limited to former supporters of the Confederacy. Regardless of the arguments I'm still betting that the SCOTUS will find some pretext to avoid actually addressing the issue.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/298895/20240126151819211_23-719 Brief.pdf
     
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  3. tampagtr

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  4. okeechobee

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    Fulton DA Fani Willis, Nathan Wade subpoenaed to testify at Feb. 15 hearing

    I have always thought the Georgia case had the most potential of them all, given the SoS's phone call with Trump, etc. If I didn't know any better, I'd say this was the plan all along. Hand this one to the Fulton DA, because it's the one with legs and they'll surely F it up. Put Jack Smith in as special prosecutor, so he can fumble the football as he did with the John Edwards and Bob McDonnell prosecutions. But then I realize, they really are that stupid.

    This will inevitably nix the Fulton case or at very worst, allow an opening for a delay which will take us well beyond Election Day. Just a matter of time before something funny drops about Smith.
     
  5. chemgator

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    Trump is going to have some serious difficulty getting re-elected even if he somehow manages to escape his likely prison sentence(s). Apparently being found guilty of raping one woman (while suspected of raping others), and ogling naked under-aged girls backstage at beauty pageants has caused 64% of women to be turned off at the idea of voting for him. Hard to believe, I know.

    Gender gap expands between Biden and Trump, new poll shows

    If this doesn't change before November, there is no way that Trump could be elected President. His only remaining voters will be uneducated republican males who are willing to overlook a rape or two.

    I belong to the demographic of republicans that would vote for a dead Joe Biden over Dimwit Donald Trump. That's right, I think a cadaver (and a democrat at that!) would do a better job than the con-man. :)
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    I have not read the actual judgment and I do not know English law and I therefore relying upon the summary from the Twitter poster. But it appears that Trump tried to sue Christopher Steele for being loyal to the Western Alliance instead of Russia, but did so incompetently.

     
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  7. gatorchamps960608

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    The Willis/Wade "issue" isn't going to affect a thing.
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    Christopher Steele: Orbis welcomes High Court victory over Trump

    In Thursday's ruling in London, Mrs Justice Steyn DBE said she did not make any judgement on the allegations themselves.
    But she found Mr Trump's claim had not been brought within the six-year limitation period.
    "There are no compelling reasons to allow the claim to proceed to trial," she wrote.
     
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  9. tampagtr

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    Well now we see what DT saw in him

     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    Yep, this sounds like someone Trump would hold in high esteem. Does anybody doubt that he was sharing the revenge porn pics with Trump to impress him?

    Tell me MAGA, does this bother you or will you continue to overlook all the red flags?

    Weeks before Nauta—a Navy enlistee stationed with the White House Presidential Support Detail since 2012—traded Washington, D.C., for Palm Beach, Navy officials had escorted him off White House grounds, reassigned him to a new post, and docked his White House security clearance in response to accusations of fraternization, adultery, harassment, and other inappropriate sexual conduct, including “revenge porn,” two people with direct knowledge of the matter told The Daily Beast.

    The allegations came from three female servicemembers, these sources said. While Nauta’s behavior had been ongoing for years, according to these sources, the women first reported it to supervisors in spring 2021, shortly after Nauta was recalled from his first, temporary post-presidential assignment at Mar-a-Lago. Specifically, the initial complaints stemmed from a woman’s responses to a “command climate survey,” submitted sometime around April 2021. The woman reported an “inappropriate relationship between a senior person and a junior person,” according to one of the sources with direct knowledge.
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    But a follow-up inquiry identified Nauta, along with inappropriate romantic relationships with two additional women. Nauta, the same source said, admitted to the relationships in a White House interview, and a superior officer walked him off the property that day. The U.S. military strictly forbids fraternization, which the Navy defines as an “unduly familiar” relationship between members “that does not respect the difference in rank or grade.” Those relationships can be personal, professional, or romantic, and the steepest penalties include dishonorable discharge and forfeiture of pay.

    Nauta, both sources said, was accused of violating this prohibition in multiple overlapping and emotionally abusive romantic relationships while he was married and assigned to the White House. The “revenge porn” included supposedly compromising images of women that Nauta had allegedly retained and threatened to make public, according to the sources.
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    Trump surrounds himself with all the best people!
     
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  12. AndyGator

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    rhetorical question?
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    She admitted the affair today. This will inevitably get the Georgia case against Trump tossed. If you need extra confirmation of this, look no further than the lack of discussion about this development in this very thread.
     
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  14. gatorchamps960608

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    How much you want to bet this affects the Georgia case not one iota?
     
  15. philnotfil

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    Why would replacing the person in charge of the case cause the case to get tossed?
     
  16. gatorchamps960608

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    Don't bother him with facts. He's still looking for the location of the Matt Bevins victory party from a few years back.
     
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    Because the person who was in charge of the case is who brought the case and they immediately (likely before) commenced a clear conflict of interest with the prosecutor in said case. There's a reason we have conflict of interest and you're not going to convict a former POTUS when the DA and prosecutor are involved in a clear conflict of interest that could have negative ramifications for the defendant. If it matters for one of Trump's aides, it will definitely matter for him.

    Perhaps I should clarify my position. These revelations will a) get the case tossed or b) have the same end net result of case being tossed.
     
  18. mikemcd810

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    It's not like the DA was having an affair with the judge or a defense attorney. The DA and prosecutor have the same interest to prosecute the defendant so what's the conflict? It could and probably should have ramifications for her career but not sure how that changes the facts of the case against Trump.
     
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  19. philnotfil

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    What is the conflict of interest here?
     
  20. G8trGr8t

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    Apparently the FBI missed two rooms when searching ML, refusing to break in the door of one when told that there wasn't anything back there. A door that the big guy had recently requested the locks be changed to...smdh

    FBI's Reported Failures in Mar-a-Lago Search 'Troubling'—Attorney (newsweek.com)

    ABC News reported on Friday that Special Counsel Jack Smith's team has questioned several witnesses about a locked closet and a hidden room inside Mar-a-Lago that the FBI didn't check while searching the estate in August 2022. The publication cited anonymous sources in their report. Newsweek has not been able to confirm the reporting and has contacted the FBI by email to comment on this story.
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    "On the face of the reporting, it's difficult to figure out why FBI agents held off," she wrote. "The reporting seems to suggest agents encountered the closet, couldn't find the key, and decided to let it go. It's not clear they were even aware of the hidden area, although the Secret Service would have had a complete floor map for the area Trump resided in, and agents are trained to be alert for concealed spaces. But sometimes, people make mistakes. That seems to have happened here, and it's troubling in a case of this magnitude."
     
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