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Records show someone in the trump WH was in a lot of pain used a lot of stimulants & couldn’t sleep

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ursidman, Jan 27, 2024.

  1. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

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    Ketamine has been the gold standard for proceurdal sedation in peds for 15 years.

    It has become a great medication for refractory depression and PTSD. Certainly it can be abused.

    I’d like to see historical med lists over the years.
    Andy proof to back up that accusation?
     
  2. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    I mean, I would hope that the White House isn't doing too many peds procedures requiring sedation...
     
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  3. gatorpa

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    Ketamine is also used for procedural sedation and tax of depression and PTSD the later two may be off label but still widely used.
     
  4. gatorpa

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    Just to be clear it’s wasn’t a defense of the use just info as to uses other than “recreational “ use for those who don’t know.
     
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  5. BigCypressGator1981

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    What sort of procedures?
     
  6. gatorpa

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    Laceration repair, fracture or joint reduction are the most common. Sedation for CT/MRI as well.
     
  7. Gator515151

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    Look who made the accusation, he never has proof.
     
  8. Gator515151

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    You do realize your boy Ronny Jackson was Obama's personal doctor before he was Trump's don't you?
    But like I said in an earlier post, this kind of thing got swept under the rug during the Obama administration.
     
  9. rivergator

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    I'll just leave this here:


     
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  10. vaxcardinal

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    The kind Matthew Perry had
     
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    Every @Gator515151 accusation is a confession
     
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  12. Gator515151

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    Please tell us, what are you confessing to?
     
  13. orangeblue_coop

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    Not very bright, as expected
     
  14. Gator515151

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    Thank you, you are confessing to not being very bright. Got it.
     
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  16. Gator515151

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    Ronny has admitted that he occasionally gave Trump Ambien after international flights as a sleep when he had meetings the next day. I would guess many politicians use sleep aids when traveling through many time zones. Anybody who has ever done that type of travel knows how it can mess up your sleep schedule.
     
  17. demosthenes

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    How are you going to come up with a baseline with different people? Or are you under the impression that everyone has the same conditions and are equally medicated?
     
  18. vaxcardinal

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    For starters they could publish the same information over the last 10 years.
     
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  19. gatorpa

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    Well 51 may be onto something, if the MD was the same under Obama, seems like some other records need to be looked at.
    It sure is a lot of sleeping pills, be good to know the system who orders, how they are given out, what the dispensing procedures are, who has access.

    If the same stuff was going on before(not saying it was), that would certainly be good to know don’t ya think?
     
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  20. ursidman

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    IG report said records were kept for only 4 years but should have been for more years.
     
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