Polls: Trump Lead Over Biden Widens

And in early 1991, after Desert Storm, Bush 41 had a 71% approval rating.

 

Securing the border was? Can you link that?

 

What ideas do you have that are going to stop people from crossing the border?

 

I've told this story before but my sister lives in Texas and the border is very important to her. She wants to keeps illegals out. She also employs a nanny who is an illegal. So, you know.....

 

Sounds like my brother-in-law, who lives in the Phoenix metro area. Wants to keep illegals out, but likely has undocumented workers over every week to do his lawn and pool. And my BIL works in sales for home products with manufacturing in Phoenix, that likely employs several undocumented immigrants.

 

I wouldn't bat an eye at people in border states saying the border is their top priority (even if somewhat hypocritical) but Iowa? Please.

 

What?

 

Trump is garbage, but Biden has shown to be as well. Dems need to throw someone else out there or it will be a pickem between to shitty options.

 

Yes. If that's your top campaign issue then propose some actual legislation to fix it. Get the other party on record that they won't agree to what you think are obvious and common sense solutions that the majority of Americans would agree with.

 

How again is this Biden's fault? This is border encounters from W. Bush through 2022.



What did Trump accomplish? Absolutely nothing, unless you want to credit him for the COVID dip in 2020? Still, look at 2019, with 133,000 encounters. If you take the 2020 number, and amortize the 2021 and 2022 number, you get an average of about 155,000 encounters. Meaning, Trump accomplished nothing when it came to slowing down undocumented immigration. Yet, it's all Biden's fault?

I'll ask again. When in US history has our Southern border with Mexico ever been "secure?" Heck, what international border has ever been truly secure? Maybe East Berlin into West Berlin? But that was a tiny wall, manned with armed guards 24/7, and reportedly 5,000 people still were successful in getting past that over the years.

 

Also the highest between 2007 and 2019. And COVID was responsible for the 2020 dip, which once again, if you amortize the numbers between 2020 through 2022, the average comes very close to 2019. Which was going to happen once the pandemic restrictions were lifted.

There was a small dip when Trump first took office. But once immigrants realized he was full of nothing more than racist bluster, and actually couldn't stop them, let alone slow them down, the immigrants came. Which is why you see the peak in 2019, which would have been even higher in 2020, again, had the pandemic not occurred.

In the end, Trump lowered legal immigration numbers. At a time when we needed the labor, especially post pandemic. But undocumented immigration. He accomplished nothing. Unless you want to give Trump credit for the pandemic's effects on immigration?

 

Explain the 2019 peak. Who was POTUS then? And again, amortize the 2020-2022 numbers, and what do you get? You get even higher numbers once the pandemic restrictions were lifted. So, what again did Trump accomplish on the border except spend billions on a boondoggle wall?

The numbers are going up under Biden. Can't deny that. But they would have also gone up under Trump had he won (which he didn't). Couldn't keep pandemic restrictions forever.

 

The peak of the pandemic was at the end of 2020.

 

Actually, since this is your #1 priority, looks like your boy is actually Obama. Look at that consistently low number for 7 of his 8 years.

The yearning you have for those Obama numbers is palpable.

 

But if immigration numbers were largely continuing on the same path as from the Obama years, and Trump implemented executive orders during his term, then the massive spike couldn't solely be due to revoking those executive orders.

 

I'm convinced that if Republicans were reading accomplishments and economic numbers in a textbook, without the benefit of knowing the name of the President, or letter next to his name, they'd pick Obama as the best President of their lifetime.