As the Election Season begins: Why I believe the U.S. will ultimately fail.

And you know for a fact a white person would have never created blues or jazz or rock n roll or gospel?

Sure it might have been later but I think those forms (or variants of them) would’ve been created.

As expected the contributions are mostly music and food. And I appreciate those contributions. I know my niece does. She was just in Europe on a study abroad and while she lived Europe the biggest thing she missed was the availability of Mexican food. It was non existent or really bad in Europe. Her first day back in the U.S. she was planning to go to her favorite Mexican restaurant.

But food and music doesn’t equal things that have reshaped this country. Nor does it equal technological or economic contributions.

 

GFY. Rush Limbaugh was more American and more patriotic in one half of one finger than you or me are in our entire bodies.

How does it feel knowing Rush got the Medal of Freedom (highest civilian honor) and a standing ovation in a joint session of Congress? Two honors you’ll never get.

That man was one of the greatest Americans who ever lived. So he had his vices, we all do. I’ll trust a man like Rush who admits to his challenges or struggles over someone claiming to be perfect.

Rush had a beautiful soul that shines 100x brighter than yours. He is now next to God in heaven and will be remembered long after you are long forgotten.

If I could’ve done anything to have helped Rush stay alive I would have. There aren’t many people outside of family I would gladly sacrifice my life for, but Rush was one of them. I know it’s weird to say you lived someone you only met in person twice but I genuinely loved that man.

RIP El Rushbo. One of the greatest Americans to ever live.

 

So are you willing to admit that the economy and the country were in very good shape under Trump from 2017 to the Pandemic? I’ll admit he could’ve handled the pandemic better the minute you acknowledge that life under the Trump Presidency from 2017-2019 was pretty darn good.

The pandemic wasn’t like a 9/11 or a Pearl Harbor where the country is united. Republicans and Democrats were diametrically opposed in their response. I don’t think we should’ve ever locked down and I never did. I was on the beach in late March. I did a hiking trip up to North Carolina that year in late May that year. If the virus took me it took me but I didn’t live my life in fear. And I’m still here.

What exactly did you want Trump to do? Lock down the country? That was never constitutional or legal and would’ve been shot down in the courts. If not Biden would’ve done it in 2021.

As for Europe, I honestly don’t give a da*n what Europe thinks of us. In fact if we do something that pisses Europe off I tend to think that means it’s a good decision for America. Europe wouldn’t have their fancy infrastructure and would still be rebuilding from World War II if it wasn’t for us. The billions we’ve spent in Europe that could’ve been spent here is sickening. We’ve done 10x more for Europe than they’ve ever done for us so I don’t care what Europe thinks.

As far as I’m concerned we shouldn’t be in the Ukraine war. Ukraine is not a NATO member or a strategic ally. That war is none of our business other than you all hate Russia. We should stop supplying weapons to Ukraine and stop treating it as a proxy war. Let Europe defend itself for a change and if Russia takes over Ukraine they take it over. No loss for us.

Your side always treats the first Trump Presidency as if it was some sort of dystopian mad max era. Please tell me, besides the Pandemic (which no President would’ve gotten right for 50% of the country), what was so bad for you personally under the Trump Presidency from 2017-2019? If it was this mad max eea you all like to proclaim surely you have some easy ready made examples.

 

I think the discussion in this thread proves my original point. The U.S. is split by politicians, right down the middle.

50% on each side. Neither side will give an inch and the sides no longer have anything in common with each.

As the old saying goes a house divided against itself can not stand. The two sides being diametrically opposed to the other will cause our government to largely continue to be non-functional. Eventually the cold civil war we are currently in will turn to violence.

Can we not at least agree that a country where half the country hates the other half isn’t a stable country? Do you really think the U.S. can survive long term in its current state? History doesn’t agree with you.

 

I would agree with this it’s why I think, even if Trump loses in 2024, MAGA doesn’t go away. Social media has given the radicals on both sides a voice they never had before. The establishment of both parties could largely drown out their more extreme elements. They can no longer do that.

Combine that with the fact that with largely closed primaries the extremes typically choose the candidate and I think you’ll have more extreme candidates than even Trump or Sanders going forward.