Ohio Judge Upholds Voting Restriction Laws

I don't see how you can come to any other conclusion than these would result in fewer votes. Not everyone can take time off on a Tuesday to vote, especially if you take away early and mail in voting resulting in what will be much longer lines. Why should we require people to wait hours to vote? It should be as easy as possible while still being secure. Early and mail-in voting have not been shown to result in any significant levels of fraud.

Quite frankly, if I were a minority (especially hispanic), I don't want to stand in line at a precinct where Trump has told his followers to be on the lookout for "illegals" voting. We saw that last election with people sitting in the parking lot of precincts with full riot gear and automatic weapons.

Just call it what it is and what others have already pointed out - Republican voters are more likely to vote on election day so limiting other forms of voting benefits Republicans. The other arguments are BS and they all know it.

 

Glad you being a white male that you know the thoughts of Hispanics. I live in SWFL and I can assure you the only "white" districts are along the coast, you go to any districts off the coast, as a white male I feel in the minority. But it doesn't bother me because I feel like a minority nearly every day between the restaurant for lunch, Publix or Walmart for groceries, the Ace Hardware and it doesn't bother me one bit!! But I do only want US citizens to vote. Polls open at 7 and close at 7, if you want to vote you can. It was already proved in Arizona that signature cards didn't match mail in votes. but it did matter because people sigs change over time.
Address the regressive voting laws that went into effect in Georgia. Record turnout of voters. It is so regressive!

 

The number of votes is meaningless. The only essentials are: (1) all citizens are given an equal opportunity to vote; and (2) the votes are valid and verifiable. The former statement correctly and succinctly states constitutional law in this regard with no apologies to prior posters who attempted to complicate and confuse the issue. (And, yes, I have studied and practiced in this area so I have confidence in writing that. Accept it; reject it; debate with yourself. I'm not taking the bait.) The latter statement is not ipso facto a restriction or prohibition on any citizen's right to vote, as so many disingenuously bloviate.

1. Demonstrating eligibility by valid ID (DL, state-issued ID, birth certificate, etc. - availability of free ID is a good idea upon demonstration of need and I believe most states include such provision) and place of residence (DL, state-issued ID, utility receipt, lease, mortgage, tax return, etc.) is not onerous to anyone, but it is foundational and necessary to a democracy to insure the "correct" people are voting in the "correct" place. If someone finds the eligibility process confusing or daunting, there are existing agencies in and out of the gov't to assist. (Note: providing such assistance is not a constitutional requirement, except to the extent necessary to comply with language, blindness, etc. barriers identified by federal statute/code.) So, no excuses on the valid ID/eligibility issue except for the fanciful/hypothetical/hyperbolic bemoanings of those who "uncover" insidious/racist/classist demons lurking behind any and all commonsense rules - even when applied universally. Also, it is not the case that a person must go through this process for each election. Once a person has the valid ID to be eligible, then they're done and only need to have it updated if they move, lose it, etc. - just like everyone else.

2. The complaints about the manner in which elections are conducted are similarly overblown. In-person voting at a precinct on the day of or for a brief period of time (5-14 days) prior to election day is reasonable and manageable for both the voter and the gov't to accomplish. (Note: "early" voting itself is not a required accommodation. However, jurisdictions have adopted it in some measure as a practical accommodation.) Mail-in ballots for individuals who are unable to physically go to the polls due to re-location, military or other service out of jurisdiction, college students, handicapped, etc. are also reasonable when the voter demonstrates the need for the mail-in ballot and there is a system to remove their name from the roll at the physical precinct to avoid double votes - gotta stop that MAGA maniac from sending a mail-in ballot then showing up in a red/white/blue Speedo to vote for Trump at the polls, don't you know. To accommodate the relatively very small number of individuals who cannot "go to the polls" OR request a mail-in ballot in a timely manner (lack of physical address to receive mail-in ballot, unforeseen accident or relocation, lost paperwork, confusion, human error, insert other hypotheticals you wish here), there are provisions for "late" voting to insure a vote may be cast.

Boom. No one's rights have been violated. Voting is fair, accessible, and easy. Vote results are verifiable and accepted with confidence by the people on whole to the chagrin of those who make a living complaining about fraud and those complaining about those complaining about fraud. No doubt someone will imagine a hypothetical that these simple and equal measures fail to accommodate. Well, perfection shouldn't be the enemy of the fair, just, and realistic. Welcome to the facts of life.

Dropboxes and electronic voting are nothing but unnecessary invitations for fraud - real or perceived. Disagree? Fine, convince me of their practical "necessity" given # 2 above. Having demonstrated their practical "necessity," demonstrate how the lack of dropboxes and/or electronic voting would deny a constitutional right to vote given the accessibility and availability to voting offered under # 2.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Pretty simple. There were significantly more votes cast overall in 2020 vs 2016. This isn't even a debate - which will end up with more votes:

Scenario A: Vote only on election day 7 to 7
Scenario B: Votes on election day 7 to 7 or vote early or vote by mail.

It's Scenario B no question. If you think it's Scenario A then you just want to argue for the sake of arguing.