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New LB coach (Ron Roberts - co-DC/LB)

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by 62gator, Jan 8, 2024.

  1. Tolbert1906

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    We need a Senior Vice President of Clock Management and Scoring Proliferation. We could also use a Director of Field Goal Attainment and Punting Efficacy.
     
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  2. archigator_96

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    Or they give them the titles to satisfy egos.
     
  3. gbranton

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    “We’ve got an OC at home.”
     
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  4. steveGator52

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    Did you say the same thing about Charlie Strong’s defense in 2007? Youth and lack of depth at key positions on the 2007 defense made it look horrible. The next year, that defense with some additions pretty much won us the NC against Oklahoma.

    I am not sure you can scheme around players not playing their position correctly or missing tackles in the hole. You can’t scheme around getting beat at the LOS. AA more often than not had them in the right position, and they didn’t deliver. The defensive scheme and play calls were good, we just need the defense to grow up and execute them. We need our LBs to perform better, and if they do, the defense will perform better.
     
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  5. terminator3

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    Our main problem is youth. We had close to a complete rebuild. Not an excuse. It is a fact.

    RR will give us more stability on defense to help the kids grow up the right way. And probably be a father figure to many players to balance AA's youth.

    Mix in Gerald Chatman and we have three player coaches which should help us get better.

    It looks like we have it right now. You have to get the coaches when they are available. JMO.

    If the defense gets better we start winning more often. And if the offense continues its improvement we will have a very good team.

    If we get ST to click then it could be a big year despite the crazy schedule. We will have to see what happens.
     
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  6. maxgator

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    I don't think that is incorrect. But when I see the same flaws time and again by different players, I question the ability of the coaches to get through to them.

    I played sports in high school. I didn't in college. Why? Because I'm not a good enough athlete. No matter how hard I try, there are things I physically can't do it make up for with desire or tenacity. Gross motor sports aren't my strength. A coach could hide my deficiencies in many ways but at the end of the day, it was all me

    Some of that may be the case with our players, but when I see year after year of flawed tackling technique, a lack of desire and tenacity like quitting on plays, I start blaming the coaches.

    I think that's why we fired some position coaches. I don't blame AA for that. His schemes are far better than toney. But someone has to take responsibility for the big play disasters. Since it was a consistent failure by the defense, I'm assigning that to AA. You can be a rock star and still need to learn. Teams saw an aspect of our defense and exploited it. So yeah, I think that is on AA.
     
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  7. partdopy

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    Yeah I don't think his offense is bad but I just don't like a HC trying to do two jobs, exceptions for if they're truly innovative game changing type of coaches and even then I'd think a coordinator would be better if only to help manage the game.

    It's extra bad in this case, in my opinion at least, as you're also breaking in a brand new defensive coordinator. I don't doubt Armstrong can do the job but I imagine he would have greatly benefited from having a HC who could really spend lots more time training him. Perhaps he will next year but this is just an odd way of doing it.
     
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  8. 31g8r

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    What exactly would this training consist of exactly? Would there be quizzes to test proficiency?
     
  9. Ofg8r

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    Reference that the top 20 coaches use an OC? I thought several called their own plays.
    Personally, I think CBN should do what he is comfortable with. The offense scored points. The defense lost games. He is correcting defensive deficiencies.
    Yes, I know this is an internet forum, so that there are a multitude of experts--sometimes called arm chair coaches--who could do a better job if they felt like it.
     
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  10. WC53

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    CBN should do what it takes to win, not what he is comfortable with.
     
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  11. pigpen

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    True he won at last stop calling plays. The O score plenty of points this year with very few int or fumbles so we did not get extra drives.
    Of we had a head coach and Napier was OC don't think we would be wanting to fire our OC. And a below AVE OL to boot
     
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  12. Ofg8r

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    There you go. Another Internet HBC weighs in with inciteful commentary.
     
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  13. WC53

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    Because staying in a comfort zone makes folks successful, smdh. Management principles, always learning. But hey
     
  14. Wanne15

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    Great response to an idiotic post
     
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  15. WC53

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    My take has always been, overall management, we have areas that have been severely lacking, if he is busy doing the fun stuff, who is handling the other? Bad thing about moving up, you get to do less and less of what brought you to the gig. Hire the best people and leave the place better than you left it.
     
  16. Wanne15

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    Thats kinda a scared attitude
     
  17. steveGator52

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    My question about this point of view is Napier had been in a lot of one score games. I am not sure that even if our defense was better, that we still wouldn’t be in a lot of one score games. We scored a lot because we had to score to stay in the game. There were times when the defense got a stop, giving the offense a chance to extend/take a lead, and the offense would go 3 and out.

    Unless we can consistently run the ball down the opposing teams throat, that style of play is a recipe for playing .500 ball. And even then, when you play close to the vest it makes the margin for error very small.
     
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  18. Montanagator

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    Glad he's here. Does he know anything about Special Team plays?
     
  19. Ofg8r

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    :

    Great points made of course. The coach (or Manager/CEO in a competitive environment) should do what makes him uncomfortable because that leads to success. I have a Management MS, but guess I missed that lecture.
     
  20. volungator

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    Charlie Strong and AA is not an apples-to-apples comparison. CS was 45 y/o in 2007 with 20 years coaching experience, the previous 7 of which was as a defensive coordinator at the elite level under established head coaches.

    AA is 30 y/o with 3 years coaching experience TOTAL. I'm not counting 2 grad assistant jobs, or the year of quality control. That's right 3 yrs as a full time salaried coach.

    Older established coaches are not going to respect a 30 y/o with 3 years experience. I'm sure this reality contributed to the failure of the two assistants that were fired.

    Lack of experience and youth only works in technology fields such as coding. Coaching is leadership that only experience forms.

    AA failed miserably in his first attempt. Like it or not BN hired AA a mentor instead of admitting his mistake and replacing him outright. It's this decision pattern that will cost BN his job and UF a huge buy out.
     
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