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Texas: Where healthcare just means more (if you’re a man)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by swampbabe, Jan 3, 2024.

  1. citygator

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    I added a dollar to this donation so you knew it was new. The .68 is the processing fee.

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  2. citygator

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    You don’t need a sad story to get an abortion. You just need a car to drive to a state the Taliban doesn’t run.
     
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  3. VAg8r1

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    Assuming that you have the time and means to do so.
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    If her doctor believed her life was in jeopardy...they had the ability to perform the procedure and notate why. The law is not as complicated as you and those who want to make abortion legal think it is.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    If the mothers life is not in jeopardy. The child should not be killed.

    I personally got to meet Ben two decades ago. He did not live long on this amazing earth. His parents knew he would not live long. But Ben was a blessing and someone special in his brief time outside the womb. I cannot imagine even what two of my good friends from high school went through with all that happened back then. But I do know Ben was his own Life (A true blessing and joy to those of us who got to meet him in person!). Separate from his mother and father.
     
  7. swampbabe

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    The fact that you think that it is okay for women to have to beg for appropriate healthcare is gross and disturbing but not unexpected
     
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  8. Trickster

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    As bad as evil people claiming to be Christians.
     
  9. AzCatFan

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    Kate Cox's life was never in imminent danger, which is why an abortion wasn't performed in Texas. However, she was a ticking timebomb, and the longer she carried, the greater her chances of "going off" and having sepsis.

    The life of the fetus we destined to end. Some people may want to see if the fetus is actually born alive. Others may not, especially when they take the risk to the mother into account. Again, Cox may have never exploded into sepsis, but the longer she remained pregnant, the greater the risk, especially considering she had already had several ER visits. And once septic, she could have had the abortion. But once septic, not only is there significant risk to her life, there is also significant risk of her ever having the ability to carry to term in the future. And Cox has stated she wants kids.

    With the future of the fetus never in doubt, and never changing, please explain why you wouldn't let Cox get an abortion and avoid ever becoming septic and avoiding all risk to her life, and greater risk of her ever having kids of her own. Why must we let a ticking time bomb continue to tick until sepsis sets in, when we can diffuse it?
     
  10. swampbabe

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    One addition to this, she already had children so there was also a chance of those children becoming motherless.
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    While I respect the decision of a woman who chooses to carry a fetus to term knowing that the baby would survive for a very short time following birth I have a serious problem with the state compelling a woman to carry a fetus to term if continued pregnancy would jeopardize her health, her future fertility, if the fetus could die in utero prior to birth and even if carried to term the baby would die shortly after birth.
     
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    You have to stop using logic and basic humanity if you wish to understand the reality of this in Texas.
     
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  13. QGator2414

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    What are you talking about? I agreed with you hospital did not act properly based on the story we read. There is another side. But there was no reason the lady from the story you posted should have been forced to wait like she did assuming everything she said is accurate.
     
  14. QGator2414

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    A lot nothing after you acknowledged her life was not in danger.
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    Should we kill a child/kid/teenager/adult because they get terminal cancer?

    It’s a slippery slope. And your life and mine began at conception. Just because we were in the womb for nineish months does change the fact we began our development to where we are today at conception.
     
  16. AzCatFan

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    It's really a simple, binary choice for Kate. The fetus' fate was unfortunately set. About 2/3 chance it dies before birth. And if born, dead within a week. But Kate, the choice was get an abortion before she goes into sepsis and avoid the risks associated with sepsis. Or wait, and increase the risk, day by day, of sepsis, and risk dying
    So, you would allow Kate Cox to wait, knowing the life of the fetus was never going to live more than a week, and she had to wait until she went into full sepsis before she could actually act? And once in full sepsis, there was a risk to Kate's life, as well as risk of ever having the ability to carry to term again in the future? Two things easily that could be avoided.

    Please explain why you would force a woman in Kate's position to undergo this with no other options.
     
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  17. GCNumber7

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    Seems awfully selfish to knowingly put a baby through a lot of pain and suffering because it makes you feel good about yourself.
     
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  18. lacuna

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    Sepsis is not only a killer, just having had it can leave a septic survivor with cognitive impairment and long lasting or even permanent disabilities. It hits suddenly, without warning from any sort of infection. It needs to be diagnosed and treated immediately to avoid the severe septic shock that causes lasting damage or death.

    Having been aggressively treated for cancer I was left severely immunocompromised, and though I take all reasonable care to avoid infections, in the last 4 years I have been hospitalized 5 times, two of those times with infections that rapidly turned septic. Despite the early aggressive treatment I received, my two dances with sepsis have left me with permanent cognitive impairment, my short term memory is not what it was before sepsis. I am fortunate my long term memory was not affected, but the impact of not being able to trust my short term memory has had a detrimental affect on my life. Sepsis is to be avoided if at all possible. If there is a threat of sepsis, the cause should be eliminated before it takes hold and quickly does its permanent damage.

    Watch this video of a wife and mother of 5 children between the ages of 13 months and 10, who developed sepsis from having a double whammy of flu and strep. She lives or lived in a Charlotte suburb at the time. Could be d_d knows her. Her experience with sepsis did not kill her, but the aggressive treatment to save her life left her permanently physically impaired. She lost both lower arms and hands, amputated below her elbows, left leg below the knee and most of her right foot.

     
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  19. QGator2414

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    You don’t kill a child because they may not live long. Just like you don’t kill an adult because they may not live long. You acknowledged her life was not at risk. If it were then the doctors had the ability to abort the child. Thankfully this is a very rare circumstance. And thankfully the mother was not at risk.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    Absolutely. Mike Williams the former Tampa Bay Buc died recently after he went septic from an accident that triggered dental sepsis.