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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Yep. I never listen to the experts and always follow the uneducated masses. It's why I don't floss daily, since less than half of Americans do. Why do what the dentists recommend? What do they know anyway?
     
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    I do need to point out that dentists said brush immediately after eating. Then they said “Stupid! Wait thirty minutes!”

    I’m not arguing for the complete abolition of medicine and dentistry. But it’s foolish to think you can’t do your own research and that health practitioners are not to be questioned.
     
  3. philnotfil

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    Which numbers are you looking at that indicate the shot is not worth taking?
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    I know it’s not directed to me. But here’s the number that indicates that vaccines are not worth taking: 0*

    *zero evidence for anything to vaccinate for.
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Just because people are in positions of authority doesn’t mean we should automatically defer to them …

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  6. QGator2414

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    Highly recommend flossing. That said. I don’t recommend your typical mouth wash. You don’t want to kill the good bacteria. But hey. You do you. Listen to the bureaucratic idiots if you wish.

    For a mouthwash. StellaLife is solid…

    Dry Mouth Mouthwash Natural Dental Gums Fresh Breath Antimicrobial Mint - StellaLife
     
  7. QGator2414

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    The disease is a cold now and we know injury can happen. At the beginning it could be argued it was worth authorizing the shot for those 65 and older. Now even that is debatable. This shot should have never been authorized for anyone under 65. But human psychology has people fighting to believe they did not make a mistake. Along with propaganda.

    There is a reason the vast majority of people (including Doctors) are no longer taking the shot.
     
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  8. philnotfil

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    For those following along at home, no data, again. Last time he posted data was 2022 and it directly contradicted his claim. No data since then, just waves hands towards the data and trust him over the people who actually spent time analyzing the data.
     
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  9. QGator2414

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    The data shows this shot should have never been authorized for those under 65. But even the doctor who took the original series will not admit that. However there is a reason the vast majority are no longer injecting themselves.

    It is a weird psychological thing imo causing the very few to still take the shot. I don’t get it (the frustrating thing is the innocent kids having parents ignorantly jab them). Pfizer and Moderna thought they had 15% still willing. But missed on that even with the fools at the cdc trying to help them lol!
     
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  10. philnotfil

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    What data?
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    Over three years in lol!
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    Current vaccine percentages by healthcare professionals for the current booster aren't available yet. But from last year, 98.1% were fully vaccinated with a booster. Anyone have any actual proof doctors are refusing the current booster? Or is Q just talking out of his back half again?

    Speaking of data, if you think the current booster is useless, again, you aren't looking at the data. Kids under 4 are actually the #2 group when it comes to COVID hospitalization numbers, with 1.6% out of 100,000 cases. And speaking of pediatric COVID hospitalizations, less than 5% were fully vaccinated. Follow the actual data, and don't talk out of your ass, and hundreds of kids could've avoided a hospital stay had they been fully vaccinated.

    But why follow the data collected by medical professionals and follow the guidelines of the CDC and AAP when you can listen to Q, our resident pediatric know-it-all with his almighty UF engineering degree and dental office assistant experience!
     
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  13. philnotfil

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    And you still haven't posted any data since 2022.

    You've made a claim, you even said there is data that supports it, your claim isn't just an opinion. So where is the data? What analysis did you do on the data that shows your claim is correct?
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    People who say they don’t believe the Bible arguing for unicorn vaccines.
     
  15. QGator2414

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    You know it…
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    Here is the latest data from King County (Seattle), WA. A few things of note. If you scroll down about half way, you see the 7-day hospitalization rate by age. This confirms that the age group of 4 and under is the second largest group of hospitalizations for COVID with 65 and older being the largest group.

    Scroll down some more and you see a conglomerate, by age, of hospitalizations by vaccination status. Now, I don't have the awesome analytical skills of someone who has an engineering degree from UF, but it should be obvious to any idiot that even today, the unvaccinated are being hospitalized at a much greater rate than the vaccinated. And unless you want to argue that preventing hospital stays isn't a good thing, then from my analysis, the vaccine is still having a positive effect.

    Scroll down even further and you see an age breakdown. And in every age group except 5-11, the unvaccinated are being hospitalized at a higher rate than the unvaccinated. This includes the age groups of under 4, and the age group 12-17. So again, despite my inadequate analytical skills, even I can see the benefit of being vaccinated. Unless again, UF Engineering school, for some strange reason, teaches more hospital stays is a good thing? I would guess not.
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    I really feel for the less than 1% of kids who have parents that continue to try and justify jabbing them for Covid. Thank goodness the vast vast majority of parents do not!
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    Yeah! What parent in his/her right mind wouldn't want to lower the risk of a hospital stay for their kid!?! Eff the data from the experts. Just go with what you know is right! sAFEtY SigNAls!
     
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    Almost nothing is more predictable than increasing hospitalizations in the winter. Add in a fraudulent diagnostic and all the usual ailments can be reclassified as Covid so as to frighten people into vaccination.
     
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  20. philnotfil

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    Yes, I do know it. I looked it up to make sure I wasn't saying something incorrect. Your last post containing actual data was from February of 2022.

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    Since February of 2022 you have done nothing but pound the table and insist that your analysis is correct and shows the vaccines don't work. You haven't deigned to share your analysis, so we don't know how you got these results from those numbers. Others have showed their work with your dataset, and every single poster who has showed their work has come to the same conclusion, the vaccines are very effective. In the meantime, over the last year in which you have failed to show any data supporting your claim, several posters have provided other data sources which also show that the vaccines are very effective.

    For those keeping score at home, we have no data sources showing the vaccines are ineffective. We have no posters who have shown their work and analysis that led them to believe the vaccines are ineffective. On the other side we have multiple posters, using multiple data sources, who have shown their work and analysis that all came to the same conclusion, the vaccines are very effective.
     
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