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Perhaps There Should Be A 64-Team Playoff

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by The_RH_Factor, Dec 27, 2023.

  1. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    If you're going to limit the transfer to after year three then then the scholarship should be guaranteed for 3 years, no redshirting and the total allowable roster should be limited to only 60 players, all on scholarship per season.
    If you lose 6 to graduation and 4 to transfer, you can only bring in 10 players to get to 60.

    You play with who you have. The NFL does it, so can college.
     
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  2. uftaipan

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    I’ve always felt the opposite: NFL teams should be allowed an 85-player roster. That was ridiculous, for instance, that Cleveland had to play last week without a kicker.
     
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  3. cdngator411

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    The college football you seem to be championing and cheering for in all your posts, will have you and about 500,000 other people max watching it. Its an odd position.

    85 roster spots as normal, redshirt is fine. Totally fine with 3 year scholarships at signing day. Transfers allowed after year 3, even if you redshirt year one.
     
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  4. Since the thread has shifted from playoff teams to roster management, why not make NIL a two-way negotiation? Currently all the power is on the athlete to place his name in the portal. There is no franchise tag like the NFL, there is no requirement to pay back the scholarship like there is with non-athletic scholarships. Imagine if schools were allowed to slap franchise tags on say, 5 players per class. An athlete can use his NIL money to buy his way out of the franchise tag if he wants.
     
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  6. murphree_hall

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    • I’m actually glad this system blew up. Many of us have been wanting a better playoff system for decades only to hear “well the regular season games will mean less” or “we can’t lose the bowl games”. The regular season means less under the current system because if you lose 2-3 games you were likely out of contention. Expanded playoffs makes teams fight to the bitter end for a playoff spot or higher seeding. I’m so sick of Alamo Bowls and Jiffy Lube Bowls. I’m even sick of a NY6 Bowl that leads to nothing. NIL did mostly bad things to college sports, but destroying the bowl system is the best thing it did. Next up, expand from 12 to 16 teams. We don’t need byes.
     
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  7. believer

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  8. Gatorhead

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    You just posted what I started chirping about over 2-1/2 years ago. Eventually the NFL will stop the symbiotic relationship with the NCAA and will absorb it completely. Get ready for your D league Jacksonville Gators!
     
  9. murphree_hall

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    I hear people say this, but it makes no sense, logically. How can the NFL absorb college sports? The entities exist in different realms. The NBA G-League is not affiliated with colleges or the NCAA. If the NFL creates a farm league, cool, but that’s not going to be part of the NCAA, it will be entirely different.
     
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  10. Gatorhead

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    Patience Grasshopper, patience, the money Ho's will reveal all in good time.
     
  11. 96Gatorcise

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    The fact you want to lock a player into a 3 yr deal with the possibility of never seeing the field and no ability to transfer to get playing time is ridiculous. It's one of reasons we see transfers now.
    Give a player a legit shot at playing time in those 3 yrs and they won't want to transfer. Having 8 dbs knowing 4 will probably never see the field is why there is so much movement.

    The football you want is the exact reason why we have this mess now. You basically want indentured servitude for the players.
     
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  12. cdngator411

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    You want the NFL, go watch the damn NFL. Stop trying to ruin college football.
     
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  13. 96Gatorcise

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    Sorry but your thinking ruined it. Everyone was happy when everyone but the players prospered.

    I watch and enjoy both.
     
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  15. 96Gatorcise

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    Yeah not what I was looking for. I just want a decent discussion. But understand it can be emotional for some.
    I apologize @cdngator411
     
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  16. atlmover

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    Scholarships for non NIL players and employment contracts for NIL players.
     
  17. 96Gatorcise

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    Not sure how that would work being a public university.

    And all players are NIL players. It just a matter how much they get if any.

    You can't stop a 3rd party paying money to players. The supreme court already defined that.
     
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  18. Distant Gator

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    I know a little off topic, but this needs to be addressed.
    Spurrier said that USC wasn't going to fire him, so he fired himself.

    It would be analogous to the starting QB benching himself for the 2nd string- because he was doing such a bad job.
    Great article if the Athletic will let you see it...

    Five years later, Steve Spurrier wants to clear up a few things

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    “In my situation, I thought it was like that. In ‘Leadership Secrets of Attila the Hun,’ it says, ‘When defeat is inevitable and there’s no way you can win, it’s better to retreat and come back and fight another day.’ Quitting to me has always meant in the middle of a game you have a chance to win and your players or coaches quit on it. That’s quitting. I felt like I was defeated. I needed to retreat, to get out, and maybe somebody (else) could provide a spark that I could not provide for that team. Maybe it was just such that nobody could have helped it much.”
    “I tell people I had sort of the ‘Urban Meyer disease.’ You know how when Urban has a loss, it just hits him? Well, it hit me,” Spurrier said. “I forgot the code to my dressing room door at the stadium.” He had to ask equipment manager Chris Matlock how to access the dressing room.

    And then came what Spurrier called “the final nail.” Dismayed by a drastic dropoff in attendance at the team’s weekly chapel service, Spurrier addressed it in a team meeting during the season.
    “We (usually) had about the whole team there basically. So I talked to the team. I said I want to encourage all of you, for 10 years now almost all of us have come to chapel service, and I want to encourage you to come. I’ll be there. My wife will be there. We need to hear his message, 20, 25 minutes a week, I don’t think that’s too much, but it’s up to you. It’ll never be compulsory, but I’d like to encourage you. You know how many came the next week? Eight to 10. Same guys just about. I said, ‘Well, these guys don’t listen to me.’ And really they didn’t.”
     
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  19. Crusher

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    That was sort of the way it was before a federal judge put a temporary restraining order on transfers not all being immediately eligible. 1 free at anytime, and then 1 as a graduate transfer.
     
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