FSU has only the ACC to blame

Urban!!!

 

Wait. I thought losing players didn't matter if you're undefeated?????

 

That third string qb won in a blow out in the big 10 championship though. FSU not so much.

 

We wanted a more national schedule which is why we played usc w and Syracuse ion the 80s.
The sec going to 7 games stopped that, but if fsu had joined then 1 game would have opened up.
The money wasn’t as big of a thing back then.

 

"School Pride"??
What ever happened to that?

 

There’s still guys that have it.

 

You mean the Cam that is also a "Benedict Arnold" for leaving his first school. Where was his school pride?

 

Did he not move from a smaller program to a power 2 conference? He also didn’t join his teams hated rival. I’m sure you can see the ever so slight difference.

 

Wanne15...
I am sure you are correct.
I live up in the Atlanta area and over the last 30-plus years, I have developed some good friends that are Georgia fans.They have taken me to games over in Athens, etc.
I keep telling them, if I had grown up in Georgia, went through the State's school system, etc... then I would have been a huge Georgia fan.
(My gosh, Matt Robinson, Georgia's All-American kicker from the 1980's is my 3rd cousin.)
But NO... I was born and raised in Florida... saw Spurrier play at Florida Field in 1966 when I was a kid.
Three years later in 1969, I was introduced to Willie Jackson in an elevator in Yon Hall.
What an honor that was.
Proudly wore the Orange and Blue in grade school, junior high and high school. Was blessed to go on to Florida and play on that hallowed field.
That was an honor.
Grand to know that my Flagship University played by the rules, etc, etc and did not sell out. As much as F.S.U. wants to believe the same, historically, they cannot.
The next time one gets the chance, just slip into BHG when there is no one there. Just you. Soak in and enjoy that silence as you look around that edifice.
And then...remember that blasting roar from when Fred Taylor scores in 1997.
State & School Pride?
If you don't have it...
You don't have anything.

 

If I remember right, Bowden would practice all off-season for Florida/Spurrier, and most of the in-season as well. Meanwhile Spurrier had to deal with the SEC and most of the time the SECCG the week after fsu, & SOS made it no mistake the SECCG was his most important goal, not fsu. Where as BB made Florida his SB every single season. The acc in the 90's was literally single A high school teams, & fsu. BB got to play his 2nd & 3rd string multiple games a season, typically as soon as halftime that conference was soooooo bad.

 

Some of my dad’s friends played oline at Florida in the early seventies. I have a beer with em no and again. I’ve always liked the gators and don’t understand these kids. We were fans in eke school and a line was drawn in tge sand.

 

I don’t buy that at all. Yes, they were in a leak team for over a decade, you cannot take that from them. Didn’t they still only win two titles to our one? They might not have gotten either one of those have they played in the SEC. There’s an SEC team that got knocked out of a title because of the bruising schedule and having to play so many tough opponents. I remember a quote from Bowden when he said that if he could get his team up to play two or three times a year. He’s done a great job And I think that kind of goes for all coaches. Teams don’t get up six or eight times a year and play their best. Think about the losses we had on during national championship years. They weren’t the good teams they were teams we had late letdowns on.

 

And you would think any lawyer with two brain cells would have covered that situation coming up in the future. Im all about honoring an agreement. Sometimes you eat the lion and sometimes the lion eat you, but you don’t back out. Judge needs to uphold what was agreed to.

 

Am I missing something? Matt Robinson a kicker? He was a quarterback.

 

Agree with this. When we were a consistently good team, we still slipped up against the likes of MSU or Ole Miss when we had a let down after a big win. FSU didn't have many big games and could still far out talent the ACC's weaker schools. Make it 4 tough games per year instead of 2 and a better quality of leser teams laying in wait with packed stadiums, and FSU does not end all of those years with only 0-2 losses. Would have liked to see them battle LSU then go to Starkville the next week.

Our schedule vs their schedule has never been an apples to apples comparison.

 

Yep, I'm not sure that they would have beaten Peyton Manning all of those years. We did but some of the games were close and we needed some comeback heroics from DW.
That alone would have knocked them out of a natty opportunity at least once.

 

we were knocked out of a few. That’s what happens when you play the SEC

 

At the very least their streak from 1987-2000 of AP top 5 finishes would not exist if they had played in the SEC