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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. VAg8r1

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    The drug received broader approval in Europe where most of the "Thalidomide babies" were born and was specifically not approved for pregnant women in the US although it approved for others. By the way a number of drugs are not approved for pregnant women including a number of the prescription meds promoted through tv ads.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    My point was that people were expected to trust scientists. But if you want to rest on the FDA as a guarantor of safety …

    FDA approved drugs pulled off market U.S. until 2014 | Statista

    On a personal note: years ago I was prescribed an FDA-approved antibiotic (for a condition I later learned was normal and harmless) that was withdrawn when deaths were reported.
     
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    More on why the media are the true deplorables …

     
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    vaccines back then really could kill you. They would intentionally infect you with a milder version of a disease (like cow pox or something ) to give you future immunity, but the result could be fatal. The thinking was your odds were better with the vaccine vs the high probability of contraction and death from the actual small pox disease.
     
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    Back then: vaccines really could kill you.

    Now: vaccines can really, REALLY kill you.
     
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    Cow pox was a much milder form of smallpox and even then vaccinations did significantly reduce the possibility of dying from smallpox itself. All vaccines work by inducing the body to generate antibodies usually but not always by injecting a much milder or weakened form of the same virus or bacteria that causes the more serious version of the disease.
     
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    Cowpox, smallpox, chickenpox …basically the same thing, toxins expelled through skin. Not viruses. Not contagious.
     
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    The truth be known I must be a zombie considering that I've had three vaccinations within the last two months (RSV, Covid and influenza) not to mention the other vaccinations that I've had in the last 18 months or so including shingles and pneumococcal pneumonia (a bacterial rather than a viral infection by the way) as well as previous Covid and flue jabs.
     
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    Nobody’s arguing that vaccines are killing everybody.
     
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    My pharmacist ex wife used to use this as an example of how the fda worked. All the thalidomide babies (or at least most) got there drugs from overseas. Pilots and stewardesses were the prominent conduits.
     
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    As far as I know, all drugs withdrawn, by the FDA, were previously approved, by the FDA, and deemed “safe and effective.”
     
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    I liked Doug Brignole and employed certain of his training principles. But if ever a death was a self-own …

     
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    Got both my girls (2 & 4) vaccinated per my pediatrician’s recommendation.

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    Your pediatrician is an idiot.

    Sorry. But that is reality.

    I will say pediatricians are bias towards vaccines because of their specialty. But any doctor should have known it was STUDID to put one of these shots in a child.

    I would not say it was malpractice if it was the first go around. But if your pediatrician advised to give the latest shots this year to your young child…you have a malpractice case in the future!
     
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