While fsu was in the small minority to vote no, if they agreed when they joined the conference or to an addendum to use the system employed by the ACC on issues where the majority rules, they have no leg to stand on. The vote to invite the 3 schools was 12-3 in favor of. As far as travel is concerned, SMU isn't any farther than Pittsburgh and is closer than Syracuse. The California schools would be the only argument they could have, and they're closer to fsu than they are to virtually every other team in the ACC.
I’ll say this over and over: If the ACC commissioner had voted to implement the 12-team playoff THIS year, FSU would be in and no one would be upset now. They might get a first round bye and win a game in the playoff, but likely lose the next. They didn’t get in because the selection committee didn’t think they were one of the four best teams (minus Travis). Someone tell me they are better than Alabama. Or, Ohio State, for that matter. The ACC was snubbed? Well, Dabo Sweeney managed to win a couple of national championships. If they beat Georgia (minus Travis), I’ll agree they should have been in this year’s playoff. Let’s see them beat Georgia. Players leaving early for the NFL now that they’re not in a meaningful bowl game? Welcome to the rest of the world. They’ve had a nice two-year run with portal players. FSU needs to face it. They were screwed when Travis was hurt. We’re they going to beat Michigan or Washington or Texas/Alabama? Why leave the ACC for a tougher conference.
They are just gonna drag it out in court and eventually settle at a lesser amount. Question is, when is the move to the B1G/SEC and who’s paying the bill (potentially Middle Eastern money)?
I know Bobby hinted at it as a quip to save face, but didn’t UF have a pact along with UGA and USCe to block FSU, GaTech and Clemson from joining the SEC?
Georgia Tech was an original member of the SEC that left in the 60’s. Tulane and Sewanee were original members that left as well. Arkansas and South Carolina are newer members comparatively, as of course are Mizzou, TAM, and now TX and Oklahoma
The outcome of Georgia and Florida State is virtually meaningless as so many of the players on both sides are not even playing. I read Florida State has as many as 14 opt outs
Meaningless, but FSU losing will do little to change how the ACC stacks up with the SEC moving forward.
I get that, but does anyone have an article link from when the SEC officially invited FSU to join in the late 80s?
Losing opt out bowls doesn’t change anything. Bama got smoked in a meaningless bowl several years ago and it had zero affect on the future. Everyone knows the two teams on the field won’t be the team that played during the season. I men, I oils want to beat either of those teams at any point but todays players aren’t as passionate about tradition as we fans. Trask played when he didn’t have to but all his receivers sat on him. There are plenty of players who care( Cam said he will see Benedict Arnold, on the field,”) they’re just aren’t as many as they used to be and the way they have the polls set up. It doesn’t really give the players anything to play for if they don’t have school pride
I don’t know about that - worth researching. I recall FSU declining the invite decades ago. Since then, who knows
No. Matter of fact, Florida sponsored FSU numerous time to join the SEC. The answer was always, we aren't interested in expanding until the SEC decided to go to divisions and then the answer was no from FSU, and the SEC took South Carolina instead. It was a millions of $ mistake on FSU's part.
I've not heard this, and while anything is possible, it doesn't seem right. Why would Bowden say FSU didn't join the SEC because they wouldn't be able to win a Natty (and then look like a bunch of chickens), when he could have said we can't join because they won't let us, because they are afraid to play FSU (and make us look like a bunch of chickens)? I think the "pact" is a myth.
Your timeline is confused. In 90 the Sec had 10 teams and needed 2 more to stage the sec cg. Arky got the invite from out west and the sec needed 1 from the east. FSU was the pick and we were on board since we played fsu anyway. FSU made a big show of turning us down. Which is how usce got invited to the sec. So the pact was impossible since usc wasn’t even part of the conference! FSU gave many reasons for picking the acc but it’s clear the tougher competition was the main one.
FSU backup QB Tate just announced he is going in portal and will not play in Orange Bowl game. Does FSU even have a QB?
They just lost Rodemaker to the portal. If FSU fans start whining about this loss affecting their chances against Georgia, remind them that Ohio State won a national championship with their third-string quarterback.
Yea I realize that. I didn’t follow the Gators until my sister went there in ‘89 and even then this would have been over my head. I’m still surprised UF wanted FSU in the league back then.
