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U.N. wants Americans to eat less meat….I say

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by UFLawyer, Nov 28, 2023.

  1. Contra

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    Yes. I don’t trust these supranational organizations like the UN, the WHO, or the WEF.
     
  2. VAg8r1

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    Obviously an extreme example although if you're going to cite an outlier turnabout is fair game.
    Super Size Me - Wikipedia
    After five days Spurlock has gained 9.5 pounds (4.3 kg) (from 185.5 to about 195 pounds). It is not long before he finds himself experiencing depression, and he claims that his bouts of it along with lethargy and headaches could be relieved by eating a McDonald's meal. His general practitioner describes him as being "addicted". At his second weigh-in, he had gained another 8 pounds (3.6 kg), putting his weight at 203.5 pounds (92.3 kg). By the end of the month he weighs about 210 pounds (95 kg), an increase of about 24.5 pounds (about 11 kg). Because he could only eat McDonald's food for a month, Spurlock refused to take any medication at all. At one weigh-in, Spurlock lost 1 lb. from the previous weigh-in, and a nutritionist hypothesized that he had lost muscle mass, which weighs more than an identical volume of fat. At another weigh-in, a nutritionist said that Spurlock had gained 17 pounds (7.7 kg) in 12 days.

    Spurlock's then-girlfriend, Alexandra Jamieson, attests to the fact that Spurlock lost much of his energy and sex drive during his experiment. It was not clear at the time whether or not Spurlock would be able to complete the full month of the high-fat, high-carbohydrate diet, and family and friends began to express concern.

    On Day 21, Spurlock has heart palpitations. His internist, Dr. Daryl Isaacs, advises him to stop what he is doing immediately to avoid any serious health problems. He compares Spurlock with the protagonist played by Nicolas Cage in the movie Leaving Las Vegas, who intentionally drinks himself to death in a matter of weeks. Despite this warning, Spurlock decides to continue the experiment.

    On March 2, Spurlock makes it to day 30 and achieves his goal. In thirty days, he has "Supersized" his meals nine times along the way (five of which were in Texas, four in New York City). His physicians are surprised at the degree of deterioration in Spurlock's health. He notes that he has eaten as many McDonald's meals as most nutritionists say the ordinary person should eat in eight years (he ate 90 meals, which is close to the number of meals consumed once a month in an eight-year period).
     
  3. l_boy

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    It kills me how in this day and age there is so much differing advice on diet. In my life I’ve seen just about every type of diet and every category of food go from bad to good to bad again.

    I’ve lost about 30 pounds and kept it off for a year - mainly just logging everything into my fitness pal and keeping my calories to a manageable level. Also try to exercise most days. I probably average 2300-2400 calories a day. I try to eat better foods and minimize junk but I haven’t totally eliminated junk.

    If I leave town and stop paying attention I can gain 5 pounds within a week or so. The thing about the junk and excess sugar is while it is enjoyable at the time it does little to satiate hunger.

    There is some evidence that out microbiome very much plays a role in our propensity to gain weight, but we don’t know enough to effectively implement that knowledge at the moment.
     
  4. rivergator

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    So you'll believe absolutely anything about them? Does the UN have any power whatsoever to do something like that?
     
  5. VAg8r1

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    Actually the UN has no power at all, this entire thread concerns what are essentially unenforceable suggestions from a multi-national organization.
     
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  6. Contra

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    I don’t think they have the power to enact these things, but they have influence to affect those who might be able to.
     
  7. Contra

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    Also, I won’t believe anything, but these things are very much in line with a green/sustainability/depopulate the planet agenda.

    If you want to reduce the world’s population by 80%…if you want to reduce global energy consumption…if you want to exert greater government and corporate control over the population…if you despise rural American culture….then these goals make sense.
     
  8. exiledgator

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    How does anything you typed here make sense?

    Corporations want to kill off 6.3 billion people....

    I'll have what you're having. Sounds like a great way to get through the holidays
     
  9. channingcrowderhungry

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    As a business owner I hadn't considered the profitability of killing off my customer base. Maybe this is the way.
     
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    Don't forget all the profits to be gained by a complete collapse of the supply chain.

    And control? Pshaw! It will be so easy to reign over the remaining 1.5 billion souls once society has completely unravelled and there are no longer any institutions left to manage. Everyone will be so happy and content, they'll just go along with anything.

    Now that I say it out loud, we need to get on this!
     
  11. Contra

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    That is one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is a zero sum game competition for the planet’s resources. If there are fewer people, then they all get a bigger slice of the pie. And then if you make those fewer people surfs living in small little cubes stacked up in cities, then the greedy elites get to have all of the pie.
     
  12. exiledgator

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    Lol. There'd be no pie, dude.
     
  13. Contra

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    But you’d have equity, sustainability, and a green society. It would be wgb’s utopia.
     
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    No, but I'm glad you agree that you were wrong and there'd be no increased government and corporate control from a planned 80% population reduction. You now understand that's a silly position because there'd be be no more governments or corporations - at least not as you imagine them today.
     
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    There is no reason Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon, GE, Morgan Stanley, Microsoft, doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc can’t exist under this model. Surfs who live in small little cubes in the city would still consume products from all of those companies and people.
     
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    There are too many flaws and absurdities in this 80% population reduction idea. I don't have the energy/ desire to attempt to correct them all, but I'll just say your zero sum game economy premise is wrong.
     
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    The body adjusts for weight over time, whether in response to under eating or over eating …

    Junkfood Science: How we’ve come to believe that overeating causes obesity
     
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