Trump's Troubles

I’ll shocked if SCOTUS doesn’t overturn.

 

I disagree only with the part about the self-executing disqualification. A finding of guilt should be required as a condition precedent. Otherwise, an opponent could simply make an accusation and “problem solved.” Our entire system of Justice requires an opportunity to be heard and a fair proceeding.

 

Good point, then it would mean waiting for the J6 trial outcome possibly near the time of the election and assuming Trump is the nominee, the trial/verdict would be suspended? Then what?

 

Not in an age where party and fealty to partisan politics come first before duty to country.

 

So you'd prefer that state courts get to remove presidential candidates from the ballot without any conviction for wrongdoing? You really want the DeSantis hacks on the Florida Supreme Court or the right-wing clowns on the Texas Supreme Court getting to decide whether the Democratic candidate stays on the ballot?

 

Those judges were provided with the same evidence that a criminal court would have been to make that judgment. Let me know when a Dem comes close to doing anything like what Trump did that would be the basis of invoking this part of 14A against them.

 

My god, man. They don't have to do anything like that. That's the problem. If you allow right-wing hacks to make these calls, they can say anything they want qualifies. "Biden gave money to our enemies in Iran. That's giving aid to the enemy. Disqualified!"

 

This is the pattern. Democrats bend a rule or statute 10-25%, then Republicans use that as precedent to break the same rule in half to "own the libs" (to the feverish support of their base).

 

I know. But think of it in terms of true due process. Heck, Trump was not even a named party; he intervened. There was no Brady discovery, no reading of the charges, no opportunity to confront the accuser, no jury, no finding of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Instead, it was a trial based primarily on election laws; not one to determine insurrection. Even the Colorado Supreme Court determined that the disqualification was “self-executing.”

 

I don't necessarily disagree on principle, but to get there, you have to read language into 14AS3 the framers chose not to include.

 

Trump wasn't the one being sued. The Colorado Secretary of State was the person named in the lawsuit.

 

Right. That was my point. This was not a trial to decide whether Trump was guilty of insurrection, at least not in the sense that Trump was provided with due process.

 

I’ve now read it, and I understand the Court’s reasoning. It’s not without thought or logic. I just don’t agree with it.

 

Trump team fires back at claims that ex-president ‘smells’

 

'Trump Often Soiled His Pants on The Apprentice Show, Wore Diapers', Claims Comedian Noel Casler

Trump takes adderall and/or cocaine to wake up for the day and valium to get himself to sleep. This cocktail ravages his digestive system and makes him crap himself all day, hence the adult diapers. He employs a valet to change his diapers and wipe his rear end for him as he can no longer do it himself.

Hence, the smell stories.

 

The USSC declined to fast track the immunity case for Smith.
I actually don’t blame them here; why Wade into throw morass until you have to?

 

I cut him slack on the coke. I can't imagine the horrors of his personal vietnam.

 

You didn't answer the question. Based on my own information, I could ban half the democrats from the next election. You point at 14A, but I'll point at a 100 others. Like you said, I don't need to convict them, I only have to accuse them. If that's the case, that they have enough proof, then why have trials at all? Based on your logic, Ted Bundy should have been executed by the arresting officer on the spot. Or those caught shoplifting should have their hands cut off right there on the spot. But this is the USA, it's innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law by your peers.