Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from the ballot

So does that mean that you missed the multitude of people convicted of carrying deadly or dangerous weapons on Capitol grounds in courts of law?

 

Is a lower court guilty of insurrection just when they happen to be overturned be overturned by a higher court on an election issue?

You can call that attempting to usurp power from the duly elected. Should we call Gore an insurrectionist?

I know, I know. Trump's actions were worse and I agree with that. But Gore fits that standard as well. The point is nobody should like where this is heading.

 

I wouldn't call him a RINO, but he's all in on the anti-Trump train. I agree with him on his rationale preventing Pence from basically choosing how the electors are counted, as opposed to a mere ceremonial role.

But he's taken that and gone with nonsensical conspiracy theories because he is so afraid of Trump holding high office again.

 

Should we charge anyone who disrupts Congressional proceedings with insurrection?

 

Gore ultimately capitulated and conceded he lost. Trump never did. In fact, Trump had a plot to overturn the election with fake electors and the Jan 6 uprising. A plan with ample evidence, which includes several lawyers and Trump advisors telling him that he lost.

Evidence which you refuse to even look at.

 

Not the standard.

If Trump thought the election was wrongfully decided, challenging the election and calling for peaceful protests is not an "insurrection."

And perhaps Trump didn't listen to or didn't believe these lawyers and advisors.

 

They should be charged with Obstruction of an Official Proceeding. Which is exactly the charge Trump is facing. When did Gore obstruct an official proceeding? He took his case as far as it could go in the legal system, but again, when he lost in court, he accepted the ruling and conceded the election.

 

Notice that the "we are not a Democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic" folks on here aren't utilizing that line on this thread. I wonder why.

 

So... not insurrection.

 

You said previously that Trump was found guilty of insurrection: "Actually, the Colorado SC did not “decide” that Trump engaged in insurrection. The underlying trial court, following a 5 day trial, made that factual determination (but still ruled that Trump could stay on the ballot). The Colorado Supreme Court did not disturb the trial court’s factual findings, and limited its analysis to questions of law."

I was looking for the underlying trial court's "factual determination" - thanks in advance!

 

I had an elementary school teacher who used to say “Put your brain in gear before you put your mouth in motion”. It’s good advice for you.

 

Trump had his day in court in Colorado. Trump chose not to appear. The judges reviewed the evidence and rightfully determined he was one of the architects of an insurrection.

Now it will be up to the SCOTUS to determine how that section of the 14th amendment will be applied.

 

Fortunately, at least for now, a report from Congressional opponents is not a charge or a conviction. Are you looking forward to the day that it is?

 

My money is on a 7-2 decision to overrule this decision

 

I think most of Liz' public exposure before she was deemed an enemy was in connection with her work on the committee, and that was about J6. I'm sure Matt Gaetz and some others would have found a way to make the investigation about Democrats under the theory that the best defense is a good offense. But most of the key witnesses were Republicans such as Cassidy Hutchinson, and they were in the inner circle and showed no signs of being disloyal to the party.

The purge wasn't just Liz of course either. Mitt Romney was literally the top Republican just 10 years earlier, and he suddenly became a traitor and RINO, too. So did Kinzinger and others. Elaine Chao resigned over J6, and they were done with her, too. Pence didn't do anything except certify lawful votes, and he basically ended his political career for defying Trump and following the law despite years of loyalty. I still think McCarthy's ouster probably goes back to Trump for not being loyal enough. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump worked behind the scenes to take out McConnell, too, given his post J6 statements, but he's just too entrenched and powerful, and the Senate isn't quite as volatile or populist.

 

Mark Meadows has flipped and is testifying that he told Trump, as did many others, that there is zero evidence that fraud flipped the election and that they lost. Trump could go with innocent due to insanity I guess.

 

I'm specifically discussing insurrection, which is why Trump was removed from the ballot.

Gore challenged the results, he disagreed how election law should be applied, the results were challenged in court, and overturned at the highest level.

Trump disagreed how election law should be applied, and the Colorado Supreme Court unilaterally characterized that as insurrection, apparently.

 

Yep, Democrats should be careful with what they wish for.

 

Yep, many, many others. Even Ken Block, the guy hired by Trump to find evidence of election fraud, found nothing. Yet, the streaming firehose of lies continues and the sheep drink it up.

Cultists' gonna cult.

 

For the purposes of the Colotado Supreme Court decision, Federal charges are irrelevant. They only needed to see Trump was an intregal part of the Jan attempt to overthrow the election results. I.e., an insurrection.

For Federal charging purposes, there is no specific insurrection charge. But when you look at what Trump is charged with, including Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, hard not to just sum all the charges up with one word that accurately describes it. Autogople would be most accurate, but insurrection is works too.