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Trump wants to keep America's blood pure ... where have we heard that before?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Dec 16, 2023.

  1. wgbgator

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    Also LOL at the idea of "Americas blood" being 'pure,' ever. We are like the most mongrel country there is (well except Brazil maybe). That's what's so weird about trying to transplant this Euro nationalism.
     
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  2. mrhansduck

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    Yeah, I can't count how many times I've read people bring up Japan as the standard. There's apparently some debate about whether Japan is technically an ethnostate or not, but even if it is, the U.S. clearly isn't and never has been.
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    I would say the only country that has done the being a colonizing country transforming into an ethno-state is Israel, and they had to work at it by empowering increasingly right-wing governments
     
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    Define "ethno-state"?
    Israel is about 25% non-Jewish.
     
  5. wgbgator

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    I mean, Israel is an explicitly Jewish state by its own constitution, but this sort of upped the ante:

    Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People - Wikipedia

    Key line here:

    If Israel is for the Jews, the non-Jewish aren't involved in national self-determination. To me this is the basis of ethno-nationalism.

    But ultimately the Confederacy was probably close to like 30% black, so I'm not sure demographics tell the whole story.
     
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  6. PITBOSS

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    “from 1990 that Ivana, Trump's wife at the time, said Trump kept the book at his bedside

    An interview with former President Donald Trump's late first wife where she claims he owned a book of Adolf Hitler's speeches he kept at his bedside is resurfacing after Trump said migrants are 'poisoning the blood of our country.”


    Trump kept HITLER speeches beside bed, ex-wife claims in old interview
     
  7. Gatoragman

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    Not going to turn this into a Fauci thread, but to think people don't like him because he said stuff we didn't like is the EPITOME of idiocrasy! According to him he never once made a false or misleading statement about COVID. Just own it, everyone was caught off guard and as we knew better, we tried to do better, but he has to own his miscalculations.
     
  8. AzCatFan

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    A large part of the Pandemic Playbook was to let the medical professionals do all the major talking points. Even if that made the POTUS look like a novice and someone like Fauci the star. But Trump, who always has to be the smartest person in any room on any subject, and unwilling to share a spotlight, threw the Playbook in the garbage. And poor Fauci, standing next or near Trump when Trump said silly things like COVID will magically disappear one day, or hydrochlorichine looks like a cure! Then the press turns to Fauci, who is now in the unenviable position of correcting the POTUS and saying Trump is full of it. In turn, the right wing media like Fox makes the whole thing out to be political, and suddenly, Fauci, who has served the government for decades under both Rs and Ds, is now a leftist enemy of the right?

    None of this happens if Trump follows the Playbook and limits his comments on the pandemic to a few, pre-written notes, and then turns things over to either Fauci or Dr. Birx. But Trump is a horrid leader. For more on how Fauci felt being put in a bad position, this interview covers a lot.

    Back to Trump, who if elected again, would replace honest people who only care about the facts like Fauci with sycophants who are dedicated to Trump over all else. This includes people who will follow Trump's dehumanization of people at the border. Trump already separated nearly 1,000 kids from their parents last time, which is a complete humanitarian crisis. I don't want to see what Trump, surrounded by nothing but yes men, will do for an encore.
     
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  9. sierragator

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    As is typical for authoritarian types, it's all fine and dandy until they come for you.
     
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  10. Gatoragman

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    You forgot the President said to drink bleach and the fish tank cleaner also!!!
    Didn't Obama build the cages and keep kids and people in them?
    Hard to separate a child from the parent when the child shows up without the parent.
     
  11. AzCatFan

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    Obama built the cages, but separated less than 1% of the kids, and only when there were questions about trafficking. Most the times, the kids were re-united with their parents. And if they weren't their parents, then charges were brought. And under Obama, the kids spent no more than 48 hours in the cage until either released to their parents, relatives in the US, or immigrant foster parents. Under Trump, the kids stayed in the cages for up to 30 days. And again, about 1,000 kids were separated from parents, and never returned.

    You really need to make major false equivalencies if you want to feel better about the human rights abuses Trump did separating the children from their parents unnecessarily. There is just no comparison to what Obama did and what Trump did. And Obama certainly never called people vermin and accused immigrants of poisoning the blood, a quote from Mein Kampf, like Trump is doing.
     
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  12. Gatoragman

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    You are right words are so hurtful!! Of course, Biden doesn't have this problem because everyone is getting in!! lol
     
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    The kids that were kept in cages under Obama were unaccompanied minors virtually all of whom were in their teens with the overwhelming majority kept in the "cages" for less than 48 hours. In addition to unaccompanied minors in their teens under Trump much younger children were separated from their parents and were held in cages for much longer than 48 hours. The Trump administration also played the game of reclassifying children that arrived with their parents as "unaccompanied" as a pretext for holding them separately from their parents in detention facilities.
    U.S. Detention of Child Migrants | Council on Foreign Relations
     
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  14. AzCatFan

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    And Trump was actually successful in slowing down undocumented immigration? Hah. Very funny. Here's the Bloomberg article and the CATO Institute Article telling the truth. Trump lowered legal immigration numbers, but was completely ineffective at stopping, let alone even slowing down undocumented immigration.

    Of course, this was first term. He tried to dehumanize and demonize immigrants from day 1. 2nd terms, who knows?
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    And hundreds of these kids can't be reunited with their families because the Trump administration was so dismissive of their status as humans they didn't bother to record who their parents were. Absolutely despicable actions, supported by terrible people.
     
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    In one remarkable sequence in the documentary, Mannucci presses Fauci on whether he might have handled things differently looking back — like asking Americans to adopt masks sooner or ordering quarantines faster. “Maybe I should have done that,” he says. “Yeah, I was wrong.”

    'Yeah, I was wrong': Anthony Fauci opens up on his regrets in new PBS 'American Masters' documentary
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    Trump denies it but I think that Ivana is much more credible than her ex.