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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. VAg8r1

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  2. duggers_dad

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    Vaccine hesitancy saves lives!
     
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    I certainly am not anti vax. But when it comes to the vaccines in question here. I have moved from the certain groups should consider it to no one should take the covid shot. Go for it if you want on the flu (I am not). And there is a reason rsv is not recommended for everyone but only the elderly and very young and even then consult with your doctor (like all of these shots should be).

    It is criminal what the idiots in public health did with the covid shot!
     
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  4. VAg8r1

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    Really?
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  5. duggers_dad

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    The precipitous spike on your graph correlated with vaccine rollout. Excess mortality in 2021 was higher than 2020 in spite of robust vaccine uptake and it’s still high.
     
  6. duggers_dad

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    I’m anti-vaxx for the same reason that I would oppose unicorn dander infusions.
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    And the spike was exponentially greater for the unvaxxed compared with those who were vaccinated.
     
  8. QGator2414

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    Covid killed those with certain underlying health conditions. The worst part is we could have provided them therapeutics but instead pushed a shot on an entire population causing great harm to a majority of that population. It is criminal!

    At this point the covid shot is completely unnecessary across all risk groups! Sadly it may have been from the beginning. But that is a different discussion as I can accept the argument at the beginning high risk groups that had not had Covid should have taken it.
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    Even today, COVID death rates among the unvaccinated in every age group above 18 have a higher mortality rate than fully vaccinated. I'm way over 50. Can anyone explain to me why I wouldn't want to reduce my risk of dying from COVID by taking the latest vaccine?
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Number of Americans who died for not being vaccinated: 0
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    Inflammation for 24 to 48 hours to lower my risk of dying? Why wouldn't I make this trade?
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    The inflammation you speak of is the body’s reaction to the trauma which is the vaccine. Fortunately, that’s the worst of it for most vaccinees.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    You want to cause unnecessary inflammation to yourself. Go for it.

    Please don’t inflict it on your kids!
     
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  15. AzCatFan

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    Please don't tell me how to parent. Both my kids are fully vaccinated with the latest booster. The risks are negligent, and we're visiting my immuno-compromised mother next week. Her doctor recommends everyone who visits to be up to date with both COVID and flu shots.

    I'm going to listen to my mother's doctor and other medical professionals over you. You shouldn't give medical advise to anyone. No schooling, no training, no knowledge, and a complete moron when it comes to COVID.
     
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    Healthcare is likely the leading cause of death in the U.S.
     
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    Photoshop is getting better with ai. Honestly though why would anyone post this crap.
     
  19. QGator2414

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    I am not telling you how to parent. I am telling you that you are propagandized at a dangerous level.

    I do not think the 1-2% of parents who are jabbing their kids with this nonsense are doing it maliciously. They are scared. They don’t understand we are the only country (there might be one or two others) with public health officials so stupid they recommend it for kids. Thank goodness Florida has a Surgeon General that follows the science.

    You will get there. But please don’t jab your kids anymore with this shot. A shot designed for the spike of the virus that is no longer in circulation. There is a reason a 72 year old Paul Offit did not take the most recent booster. And advised his kids to not take the previous booster.
     
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  20. AzCatFan

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    The only person more full of shit than Lapado when it comes to following the science is you. And that's saying something, because Lapado altered key findings in a study when he made reccomedations.

    Maybe if we weren't seeing my octogenarian mother with immune issues, I would opt out of getting my kids vaccinated. But my mother can't be vaccinated, and at her age age health condition, a COVID diagnosis is all but a death sentence. So much so that her primary care doctor warned her not to be around anyone not up to date on their vaccine. Including kids.

    Now, who should I listen to? A medical professional with intimate knowledge of my mother's medical issues? Or some moron online who thinks Lapado, who lies about medical info, is a good guy?
     
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