Your math is off target. The participation of a transgender in the *wrong* sport doesn't just impact the transgender person; it impacts the kids that share the locker room; it impacts the competition; it impacts the record books; and it impacts the number of threads in THFSG Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
The point is that the concern of transgender athletes participating in competitive sports even conceding that at least in some cases that the concern is legitimate is far disproportional to the reality of those persons actually participating. It's become an issue because it triggers certain cultural conservatives. Speaking hypothetically if I had a teenage daughter I wouldn't want her to compete against an athlete who has gone through male puberty. That being said the probability of that actually happening is incredibly small. I also believe the policy of whether or not transgender athletes should be allowed to compete against genetic females should be left to the bodies governing the sports not to politicians.
LOL. So you agree you wouldn't want your daughter competing against a male athlete but you are for it happening elsewhere. Got it.
I personally wouldn't have any problem with my hypothetical daughter (I have a son not a daughter by the way) competing against a genetic male who has been on puberty blockers and has never gone through male puberty. For an example see pic below: Not the same as an athlete who has gone through male puberty. In any event the probability of competition against a transgender athlete is extremely low considering that around one percent of the population identifies as transgender (one survey did indicate that for persons under the age of 25 it was as high as 1.6%) and most transgender do not participate in competitive athletics.
It's not a problem until it happens to you!!!! Puberty blockers and or anything else to make them think they are a girl, do you want your daughter exposed to a male, with male parts, in a locker room? I don't get it. How about some common decency? But no, right is for it so left must be against it.
LOL. You agree Trans women who went through puberty shouldn't be able to compete with woman. That's all you had to say. Thanks for agreeing with me.
First of all, 'never' is an absolute. It doesn't mean 'sometimes.' Second, then who exactly are you trying to take exception to? Do you really figure you've somehow nailed the posters who said it happens sometimes by pointing out that ... it happens sometimes?
Then that means she was using male hormones that would have put her at an advantage while competing with the other young women. That, too, is disqualifying and should be. In this case, the needs of fairness to the many outweigh the need of fairness to the one.
Most girls don’t participate in organized athletics either, it’s not a bad assumption to say it’s proportional. So let’s undercount the 1.6 percent and assume one percent of competitors on the women’s side are transgender. They are potentially impacting everyone they race against, in some cases it could be thousands of people. So even if you were to say one transgender competes against 50 people on average (an individual race at a high school might only be 6-8 others, a county wide meet might be dozens, a volleyball player influences every team they play for the year which is in the many hundreds, but an open public event or an NCAA national event could be in the thousands), then literally half of all women competing in sports nationally are potentially impacted. It’s not minor or small, even if the population of transgenders is.
Be serious now please. The bulk of the arguments against feel is happens so rarely, almost never, that it is something we need not be concerned about. Using this logic, you could say the same abouts Trans in general, that they are such a small, miniscule part of the population so why should we care about any of their rights?
Then there’s stories like this, where a 50 year old transgender man was competing and sharing a changing room with 16 year old girls. MSN
Obviously we have lots of positions here from one end to the other. But rather than 'we need not be concerned about' I think many of us feel that it's not a major issue that we all need to be upset about. For a while, it seemed like we had some people really obsessed with trans in general and competing in sports in particular. Personally, I think it's clearly that something that needs to be dealt with in sports. But it's something that each sports organization needs to deal with, not state and federal governments.
If we don't want government interfering where "organizations/business" fail to act responsible, why do we have any government regulations on anything? We can simply rely on organizations/business to do the right thing.
Has she fully transitioned (including bottom surgery)? If so, would you have the same issue if a 50 year old woman shared the changing room?
Yep. Notably, the reactions to Bud Lite, Dylan Mulvaney, and others reflected that the anger is about much more than fairness in sports.
Oh, so what happens if the sports organization does nothing? Just tell your daughter to "suck it up" and go get your ass kicked by the male? Sounds awesome...
Obviously, acting responsibly is in the eye of the beholder. Do we want Congress taking over college football playoffs because the majority thinks FSU was screwed over? If the Jacksonville Cycling Club, for example, allows trans to compete in women's races, female cyclists have an option of entering the race or not. Do we really want the state legislature mandating who can and can't race?
