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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cocodrilo, Dec 9, 2023.

  1. duggers_dad

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    A sliver of America’s anti-Russia gun platform as against America’s +900 military installations in some 80 countries ? No.
     
  2. l_boy

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    I just don’t get these electoral college protects rural states arguments. It could easily go the other way

    My recollection was they thought Gore had an electoral college advantage. At least until he didn’t. Gore gets a few hundred more FL votes and wins. Small rural states had little to do with it

    Kerry lost the election by 3 million votes. If he got 100000 more votes in Ohio he wins.

    The thinking was previously that swing states like FL and Ohio would be small D majorities due to demographics, and that would have given Ds an electoral college bias.

    The EC bias has gone back and forth.

    A Brief History of Electoral College Bias – Sabato's Crystal Ball

    The assertion that the EC protects rural states is complete nonsense.
     
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  3. dangolegators

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    No it's not. It's mathematically obvious that the EC 'protects' rural states. California has 39.2 million people. Wyoming has 580 thousand people. So Cali has 67.6 times more people than WY. In 2020 Cali had 55 EC votes and WY had 3. Cali has 18.3 times more EC votes. Big advantage Wyoming.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    Ok fair enough. I forgot it followed representatives plus senators, so small states will have an advantage due to the 2 senators. However I’d argue it is only relevant in the aggregate. The power any small state has is minuscule. Plus some of the states are just small not as rural (DC)

    My point is the EC is geared towards swing states. The voters in the winning party is a close state have more power vs the voters in the winning party in a deep red or deep blue state.
     
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    Perhaps the pendulum will swing back one day, but people have moved to where the jobs are and that is in the cities.

    Republicans want land mass to matter more than people in national elections.
     
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