Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Gator Country Black Friday special!

    Now's a great time to join or renew and get $20 off your annual VIP subscription! LIMITED QUANTITIES -- for details click here.

Texas towns make it illegal to use roads to travel out of state for an abortion.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ursidman, Sep 2, 2023.

  1. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    21,023
    1,744
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    Since you apparently believe that an embryo/fetus is a person separate and apart from its mother from the moment of conception should pregnant women who drink, smoke or engage is risky behavior be prosecuted for endangering the lives of their "children". Although there have been some cases in which aggressive prosecutors have charged pregnant women who have used illegal drugs during their pregnancy with child endangerment should that also apply to women who engage in otherwise legal behavior who could endanger the well being of the fetus that they are carrying?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,139
    1,196
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Of course.
     
  3. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,584
    2,830
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
    Agree 100%, just passing on the pre-drafted spin
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  4. l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    12,933
    1,730
    3,268
    Jan 6, 2009
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/11/kate-cox-texas-abortion/

    I mean how Handmaids Tale can we get here. The fetus will die, her health is in danger and Ken Paxton takes it upon himself to be the arbiter of what is right.

    Separately, Paxton in a letter on Thursday threatened to take legal action if Cox had the procedure in the state, warning doctors and hospitals that anyone involved in performing an abortion for Cox would face “civil and criminal liability” that could include “first-degree felony prosecutions.” He contended that Cox’s case did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”


    Cox had been to the emergency room at least three times during the course of her pregnancy, according to the initial complaint, experiencing “severe cramping, diarrhea, and leaking unidentifiable fluid.” Cox has had two prior Caesarean sections and would have probably needed a third if she carried this pregnancy to term, according to the complaint — a procedure that doctors said could have affected her ability to have more children in the future.


    The state’s highest court found that the situation itself wasn’t sufficient grounds for allowing an exception.

     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  5. swampbabe

    swampbabe GC Hall of Fame

    3,699
    929
    2,643
    Apr 8, 2007
    Viera, FL
    I guess in Texas a pregnant woman is the property of the state. It’s sickening.

    I notice that there are some folks conspicuously absent in this thread.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  6. l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    12,933
    1,730
    3,268
    Jan 6, 2009
    Not many of these things / issues make me viscerally angry. This does. I have nothing but contempt for Paxson and his ilk. (I live in TX).

    It is why it is impossible to have a reasonable compromise, with ample exceptions and protections. These people will take it as far as they can.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Like Like x 1
  7. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

    9,040
    2,033
    3,013
    Apr 3, 2007
    Bottom of a pint glass
    They love government mandated pregnancies.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  8. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    21,023
    1,744
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    This says it all.
    upload_2023-12-11_21-20-41.jpeg
     
    • Best Post Ever x 4
    • Winner x 2
    • Agree x 1
    • Disagree Bacon! x 1
    • Informative x 1
  9. Sohogator

    Sohogator GC Hall of Fame

    3,568
    576
    358
    Aug 22, 2012
    People like Paxton aren’t men. They’re something else..
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,369
    13,235
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    So women are just property. Thanks gop, good to know. Vote accordingly.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. PITBOSS

    PITBOSS GC Hall of Fame

    7,808
    819
    558
    Apr 13, 2007
    I know he’s a maga hero but recommend checking out just how unscrupulous Ken Paxton’s has been in his various roles of leadership. I was going to post links but there is so much I didn’t know where to start.
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2023
  12. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,369
    13,235
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    They bark about limited government and liberty as they take rights away. They don't believe in freedom, they only believe in power.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  13. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

    6,707
    1,374
    3,103
    Oct 11, 2011
    This specific situation deserves its own thread, IMO. Absolutely abhorrent.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  14. gatorchamps960608

    gatorchamps960608 GC Hall of Fame

    4,520
    942
    2,463
    Jul 4, 2020
    There is no way any woman or man who loves women can vote for any republican.

    The brutal possible outcomes are just not worth the risk.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  15. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,139
    1,196
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Faux compassion and feigned outrage with a very naughty fetus at the center.
     
  16. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    21,023
    1,744
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    Your apparent position being that with the possible exception of a c-section there should be no medical intervention which could shorten a pregnancy and that the mother should be forced to give birth in every case including that in which the fetus dies in utero, the fetus has a condition that will result in its death shortly after birth and/or continued pregnancy threatens the health or even the life of the mother.
     
  17. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,139
    1,196
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Notice the wide chasm between the party that describes abortion as killing babies and the party that describes prohibitions against such as “forced birth.”
     
  18. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,369
    13,235
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    Don't kid yourselves, they want to make this nationwide.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,139
    1,196
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Well, d’uh. Abortion is a black mark on America.
     
  20. mrhansduck

    mrhansduck GC Hall of Fame

    4,833
    1,001
    1,788
    Nov 23, 2021
    Is the Texas law allowing private lawsuits still in effect, and will that be used here to go after whatever hospital or doctor this lady has gone to see? Can/will she also be sued?