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Puzzled- Major Stadium Upgracde, Poor NIL Money

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by PlantationGator, Dec 7, 2023.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    I saw many games in the past and in resent year, what does that have to do with wanting the best for The Florida Gators football team.

    I remember seeing Chris Collinsworth live in The Swamp and I saw every single home game in 1996 and have been to many of the best game we've player there since the 1970's. And recent games too. I just don't go to games with strangers.

    And, like I said, that has NOTING TO DO WITH THESE RENOVATIONS.

    One more thing how are you even replying to my posts... I ignored you a few hours ago.. Lol.
     
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  2. 31g8r

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    Wow, I’m happy to share the document from 2021 out lining what was on the table then all 59 pages it’s pretty specific wrt choices and considerations and who the 6 university individuals were who reviewed and approved the document. Have you seen it?
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    I said we should repair what's wrong and you said we need "renovations" and that why we need to reduce seating.
    I think we should repair The Swamp and NOT renovate... and then we won't have to change The Swamp at all.
     
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  4. Gatorrick22

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    I haven't seen it. Is is something that you can post for us. I would very much appreciate it of you could post it for all of us to see. Or if you have the gist of it... that would be fine too.
     
  5. INGATORSWETRUST

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    With 450,000 UF alumni, if each person have $500, we would have $225 million for NIL
     
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  6. paidinfull

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    Just saying. Some folks have shown some displeasure with the reduction in seating, but you have been by far the most “vocal” person I’ve seen about it. You’ve made comments like all the games are sellouts, and there’s only a couple hundred empty seats at games. I would say there’s more than 500 empty seats even at most big games. At the non conference, and non fsu games, there are thousands of empty seats. If you’re attending games, you would see this with your own eyes. I believe mcb goes to almost all the home games. I went to mostly away games when I lived in TX, but now that I’m back home, I go to a few games at the swamp a year. I see lots of empty seats.

    I’m mostly indifferent on the upgrade. I’m not vehemently for or against it. I do think the ol swamp could use a face lift. She’s getting old. I understand that when she gets a facelift, she’ll be required to have her tummy tucked, butt lifted, and her boobs done to get her up to code and that means a reduction in seating. With the amount of empty seats I personally see at the games, I think we’d fill more seats regularly if the capacity is reduced and the seating is more comfortable.
     
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  7. paidinfull

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    You threaten to ignore me all the time, but you never do. What did I do today?
     
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  8. paidinfull

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    We have a rather large, non-alumni, fanbase as well.
     
  9. Gatorrick22

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    Every stadium has a place for the ADA people... I don't remember this ever being a front and center issue before.

    I'll bet there is information, that you have about these renovations, that you are not telling us about.
     
  10. paidinfull

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    It’s only an issue when you’re doing renovations or sometimes even major repairs. You have to bring things up to current code when you make major changes on your home too.
     
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  11. 31g8r

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    The pdf is too big to upload. The scope is all encompassing with multiple scenarios. The reductions posted are accurate based on the choices in 2021. There could have been changes/updates in the interim. The project has been in the works for a long while.
     
  12. Gatorrick22

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    One more time I ignored you becasue you just want to argue and invent lies about what I said... I said that we've been selling out the tickets to the games, THE NON CUPCAKE GAMES SPECIFICALLY.

    And we will sell out many more game next year, becasue many of our hardest game at in The Swamp. That is not to say that people that have tickets in a sell-out might still miss games.... not the dame thing. A sell out is about ticket sales not seats in the stands.

    And I am not alone nor the most vocal about deleting seats... another lie you're perpetuation. But I have to say... how are you even post replays to my posts?


    I ignored you becasue all you want to do is to attempt to discredit anyone. especially me, that speaks out negatively about these renovations.

    If you can't find ways to make any dissenter of these renovations see your side of it you attempt the lowest common denominator of human intelligence... you try to insult... discredit them becasue you can't agree with another point of view.

    Truthfully... The seating reduction is only part if my distrust in this renovation. I do NOT trust the people in charge of these decisions to renovate without destroying one of the iconic and historical stadiums in all of college football.

    We're in the dark about the details other than they want to reduce seating at an alarming number of seat. The talking head on other sites and these so called experts are talking about reducing seating down to as few as 75,000p set.

    That is an nonstarter for me and I am not alone on this type of reduction. You don't destroy an historical stadium and for all we know these talking prognosticators (I'm not talking about these comments by the everyday people) on these other sites, are more in the know... have more information than we seem to get from people in the know here.

    I hope these renovations turn out great... I love The Swamp and love the people and friends I go there will and the new ones I make in the stands when I do go to games.

    It's time for me to go see some more games live...
     
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  13. paidinfull

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    Yikes. Are you sure you don’t drink? Let me see if I can help you out with the whole ignore thing.
     
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  14. Gatorrick22

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    I can do the ignore the old fashioned way too...
     
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  15. apkgator

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    There were a lot of options considered 2 1/2 years ago, including a new stadium. There was a lot of blowback on losing the swamp and losing too much seating.
    Rather than link years old data just find a link to the recent AD interview where he projected lower numbers than you are talking about. Obviously nothing is set in stone, there will be lost seating....but mitigated as much as possible thru reduced opponent allotment.
    My family has had the same West stand seats for over 50 years....I have little doubt I will be impacted. Currently on the 40 yard line and likely will get pushed further toward goal line as seats and aisles are widened. That sucks, but I don't see alternatives. Some of this stuff has to he done
     
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  16. I mean if there's a legit justification but fair enough I'd like to hear it but the average fan just doesn't see it and loves the Swamp as is. We can deal with things like long lines at the bathrooms, we love the Swamp. SIAP but former Gator Shannon Snell summed it up well.

     
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  17. 31g8r

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    I got no dog in this fight. The study was an official document signed off by various areas of the university and had 5 scenarios. Maybe they go totally different direction i stand by the range presented, time will tell. Regardless, of what they do, saying that reducing visitor allotment will mitigate lost seats is apples to oranges simply based on location of said seats and where the new locations might end up being.

    I’m checking out now because everything is speculation and it's a touchy subject for some.
     
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    Stand alone football complex, indoor practice facility, now stadium upgrades again. We were told we needed these things to recruit better players. Seems the whole infrastructure thing is not getting it done. Pretty simple really,open the checkbook.
     
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    For years these boards have been filled with people ( the "average fan") ranting.....uf has to upgrade, keep pace with the amenities, I'm not driving to sit on a bleacher when I've got a lazy boy at home, not standing 15 minutes for a beer or bathroom, etc etc. It's been non stop. Now they want to address this stuff....along with the simple fact that the stadium is badly in need of infrastructure and structural upkeep.
    I would like a better video board, an extra inch or 2 at my seat, better concessions, less congestion at the gate...and I understand the aisles have to be widened for ADA and code. And the simple reality is that even " sellouts" feature plenty of empty seats. I'm at every game, and the crowds have been loud and big the last 2 years without question....but there are plenty of vacant spots. Every year season ticket holders get a chance to upgrade and move their seat. When that time comes you go online and get a map of available seats....there are plenty. I was there when it held 72k, I was there when it held 84k....just as loud. Going back down into the 80s isn't going to impact that aspect
     
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  20. apkgator

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    Vistor location isn't relevant....you just put displaced uf fans in some of those areas.
    I do think some of the areas you mention will happen. Lower bowl chair backs and widen seats upper bowl...just think the impact is lower than you expect
     
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