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6 states sue NCAA over transfer rules

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by 96Gatorcise, Dec 8, 2023.

  1. 96Gatorcise

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    It's not what you think......

    They claim the current rules are too restrictive that a player should not have to sit out at all when transferring multiple times.
    Lawsuit accuses NCAA of antitrust violation in college athlete transfer rule

     
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  2. 92gator

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    Well...we created this monster.

    The only way to fix it at this point, is to kill it.

    IOW, if we want to watch football, we are stuck with disloyal mercenaries.

    Alt 2....stop watching. Kill the market to reign it in (not going to happen anytime soon...).

    Cest la vie.
     
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  3. studegator

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    This was the first year since I started watching college football that I haven’t watched even one game, just a few highlights. Much worse than the NFL now since college became a full blown “pay for play” league with no allegiance to any school.
     
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  4. Wanne15

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    I try to think of it as a job and they are simply workers and in that respect , I have to agree with players. If I’m a player, put me under contract and guarantee me 4-5 years of whatever we agree to be it money, room and board, education or whatever we agree to. The players that walk like ET is what pisses tge fans off but we don’t think much of those other guys that got pushed into the portal. Some are getting their grades and never wanted to leave. Maybe they got a couple injuries and got passed. Some are good students and good teammates that get pushed out because a more talented player jumps in and takes his spot. Some are the good amateur kids we want to like. The point is, those kids have zero protection . You can’t have it both ways but the schools are in it for themselves and will shit on a kid quick. I wish they had the opportunity to be signed up for the duration and under contract giving both sides some leverage and security.
     
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  5. partdopy

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    Why should employees have to sit out of the employment they are getting paid for. Makes no sense.

    Now, if they're getting paid in expectation of completing a college career at a specific spot then they should pay it back. Simple contract change could fix this tomorrow.
     
  6. 96Gatorcise

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    Then make said contract 4 years. Scholarships are 1 yr(season) deals. Players should be able to seek a new one every year.
     
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  7. stp_gator

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    Well said. The current state of affairs and the velocity at which it is going in this new direction makes me feel like an old timer pining away and wishing for the good old days.
     
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  8. partdopy

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    Yes thanks for restating my last paragraph
     
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  9. UF24ou14

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    How do you justify 4 year contracts, but the scholarship is only for one year? Are you requiring a kid be committed to a school for 4 years, but the school only has to be committed to the kid a year at time?
     
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  10. homer

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    The NCAA had/has an academic progression rule that I read if not met programs can be punished in some way.

    If that is still in effect how will it affect schools who bring in and lose lots of players.
     
  11. Wanne15

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    Has to go both ways. AR gets that 27 mil if he never plays another down. If he wins a Super Bowl in the first contract like Purdy, he is a steal. It’s a gamble but both sides have skin in the game.
     
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  12. 96Gatorcise

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    Currently scholarships are 1 year deals. What I'm saying is make them 4 year. Or at a minimum 2.
     
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  14. tommyvee

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    I knew this was coming. Once the farce of the “student-athlete” was exposed, the right of athletes to make money and be protected by labor laws was inevitable.
     
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  15. UF24ou14

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    AR is in the league. How do you propose things work at the college level?
     
  16. UF24ou14

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    Yep, it has to give the players some security or you can't limit their transfer opportunities.
     
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  17. freedomgator

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    One could make the argument that almost any rule “unjustifiably restrains the ability of these college athletes to engage in the market for their labor as NCAA Division I college athletes.” What's next, letting FSU transfer in DJ Ukelele before the ACC Championship so they don't look like such scrubs?
     
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  18. 96Gatorcise

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    Actually the next lawsuit will be to extend eligibility. Why is it 5 to play 4? Why not 6,7 or 8. What if the student athlete wishes to seek out an advanced degree. Why can't they continue to play? As long as they are in good academic standing with the school they should remain eligible.

    Edit: I know the traditional reason 5 to play 4. I am just making an argument.
     
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  20. Hill_Raiser

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    Will be collectively bargained in the next 5 years. The transfer mess is probably a bigger deal than the money issues for a lot of schools. There will be tiers as already proposed this week. Kids will be salaries employees. Minimum commitments to player salary, possibly caps too. That will be the only way to get a handle on the transfers