If it wasn't FSU, would you feel bad for them??

Yeah they got screwed. Still smiling from ear to ear.

 

No. It is in the NCAA's protocol that the committee is allowed to exclude a team that loses a key player which affects their ability to perform at a high level.

CFP grew ‘concerned’ about Florida State during ACC championship game (msn.com)

 

Well you’re right about that, they stink.

Your sisters notwithstanding, you were here in 98 I am assuming? That means you saw DockettGate, maybe the Swindle? No love for FSU or do I feel sorry for them.

Let me explain how much I hate them. Their not getting in is more enjoyable for me then them losing it because it hurts them more and also we will have a good game to watch. Hell, we could have beat them.

I hate them so much that I actually hope they did deserve to go and it makes it that much painful for them.

No Gator is a Nole sympathizer. Not to Dyllards sponsored Free Shoes U, nope. Step back brah. Lol

 

You are so wrong!! Sorta funny. You don't know your history and perhaps that's why you are swayed by so many specious arguments.
They did have bowl tie-ins but they also matched up the top 2 teams outside the Big 10 and Pac 10.
This started w/ Bama vs Miami the year prior.

FSU and Nebraska were the top 2 teams before the final game. NOT WEST VIRGINIA even though WVU was undefeated and FSU had a loss.
Nebraska was tied into the Orange, so FSU vs Nebraska was the NC game.
WVU was sent to the Sugar where we destroyed them.

So yeah- it's actually a great analogy.
It just doesn't work for you so you ignore it.

 

What was Georgia's SOS?

 

It’s not that I don’t realize that F$U got screwed.

It’s that I just don’t care.

They chose the ACC 3 decades ago. Time to pay for it.

 

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FSU has screwed Miami 2000 and Notre Dame 1993 out of national championships. They can cry harder.

If Clemson was in their spot this season and got left out, there would be no sympathy. The ACC has been a running joke for its entire existence.

 

Great post.

 

So, in the bolded part the criterion favoring fsu is okay with you, but the criterion used today, which includes strength of schedule and the fact a critical player is injured and can't play leaving fsu out, isn't? By your logic the record is the only thing that matters, not who you play. If that's the case, Liberty should be in. Did you think that UCF should've been in?

 

My stomach muscles are still sore from the laughter.

 

No way you aren't a nole. No self respecting Gator would so adamantly be supporting fsu over this. In your opinion fsu got screwed. Many teams have gotten screwed in the past, and fsu contributed to several of those. I, too, have family that went to fsu. I hate the noles just as much, anyway, and not that fond of the family members either.

 

RE the original question: Would I feel bad for them if it was anyone but FSU? Yes, I would, because I am a caring, empathetic human being.

But it's not anyone else, it's FSU so I find it delicious, delightful, heart-cockle-warming to see their discomfort.

 

No FSU did not get screwed. The system was always about protecting the power$ of the sport and FSU/ACC isn’t on the same level as Bama/SEC and Texas/B12 when it came down to it.

We have a committee for a reason (same as to why we have subjective calls on the field), so we can “protect” the current system.

 

You can't be serious.

Nole troll?

 

@uf1998

Where's your tear filled thread for UGA?

They're actually, almost indisputably, one of the 4 best teams in the country.

2x time still reigning national champion.

Lost only 1 game in 2 seasons, in the toughest and best conference in the nation...

...and that one loss was by 3, to the SEC champ, in the SECCG.

...to the historically best team in CFB.

I don't feel bad for either, but if anyone's getting screwed here, it's Georgia, not PretenderSU.

 

After weeks of shadenfreuding on the board, if FSU somehow manages to upset Georgia - and it is recognized as the people’s champ - can you imagine the teeth-gnashing around here ? It’ll be UCF 2.0!

 

Interesting. For what it's worth, I think SWAC was better than West Virginia that year, and I think most folks probably agree. I think Notre Dame was better than West Virginia that year also; and they had the head-to-head tie-breaker. The timing of the losses was crucial back then.

You may recall that, back in 2004, the AP asked to be removed from the selection process, so they are no longer a factor. The coaches have obviously all agreed to go along with the playoff committee as the primary selection tool. You talk of manipulation, but even in the coaches poll, the difference was extremely close to the point of it not being egregious if one team was picked over the other. For those that don't get how close the voting was, go look at the difference in total votes between Texas, Alabama, and SWAC and compare that difference to the difference between FLORIDA and Michigan in 2006. The bottom line is that the opinion amongst the coaches was not as clear cut as you might believe.

I think SWAC won by 21 and Bama won by 14. I have no problem with the idea of SWAC with Travis making the postseason. I thought they were a really good team. Do you think it's inconceivable that, using this game as a comparison, people might think that Travis makes up more than a 7-point swing for SWAC? If not, this game doesn't help SWAC's argument, it helps Alabama's. If you do think it's inconceivable, explain why. That factor is literally part of the selection criteria, so are people mad at the criteria or are people mad that it wasn't applied the way it should have been?

- we've established that it's not unreasonable for a 1-loss conference champion to be selected higher than an undefeated conference champion
- we've established that only 4 teams could get selected when it seems like there may have been at least 6 worthy competitors
- we've established that the selection criteria and the people that implement them are the authority
- we've established that a rule exists that essentially allows for penalizing a team for losing a key player
- it appears that the loss of said key player had a significant impact on the team's play (maybe this is still a point of contention for some folks)

The only thing we haven't established is how there was a "screw job."

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