NCAA President Proposes New FBS Division

If this does happen then at least institute a salary cap and possibly even a draft of invoking HS players. Gotta keep a competitive balance or nobody will watch it.

 

Yeah, but the "daddy" coach who stays for 10+ years is gone. Kirby will be the last, IMO. Then you'll be lucky to see people stay more than 5.

 

Sorry. According to USSC, personal services contracts are perfectly legal and there is no legal means to cap that.

 

Yes, it's speeding by exponentially over the last few years. I can see what you are proposing happening, but as i posted, as long as they continue to make the big bucks as it now stands, they aren't going to abandon that for a lower division. What if UF did, but fsu didn't? We'd become so irrelevant overnight that it would be unbelievable, and fsu would be the greatest beneficiary. I think the entire system has to implode for what you propose to actually occur.

 

Nah I'm good over here.

 

Honestly not a bad idea

 

So, you're proposing telling a high school kid where he has to go to college via a draft? That's absurd.

 

If this is instituted I wonder how long until it fails like other professional leagues not made up of the best players? Why watch "professionals" who aren't the best? What do they do when it fails?

 

I guess it depends on whether the lower league - due to its similarity to the old system - is as or more popular. And whether they can cover their nut in the big league. Still, it feels very unsustainable. Boosters don't have endless money and they'll be relied on for that even more than ever. Do you approach someone like the Saudis (no joke)? That could be game changing (Manchester City/PSG, etc.) for that team or teams. How would people react to that? In the PL, they grapple with that every day. Some want the Gulf money so they can compete at the highest level, other fans want no part of their dirty money.

I'm pretty positive about the 12-team playoff format, so maybe that makes it sustainable (make the playoffs and you're viable). But, man, are there a lot of potential problems and costs on the horizon.

 

If he’s getting paid to play football there, then yes. They literally do the same thing in the CHL. That’s your new path to the NFL that I would propose.

 

They'll milk people like me (fan of the school) and most of the people on this board to make up the difference.

 

That's because they're signing them out of HS and assigning them to minor league/junior teams. Not sure what the rule is now, but they used to sign them as kids. Pretty sure Orr was signed by Boston at 10yo or something like that. I believe Beckham was Man U property at age 10 as well.

 

I think any “draft” involving high school kids would be for this NFL minor league we’re discussing. An athlete would declare himself eligible for the draft no later than October and would become untouchable by colleges at that point. The draft would be in December, two months before NCAA signing day. Any player drafted would be forever ineligible to compete in the NCAA at any level. And declared players undrafted will be eligible for the NCAA but never at whatever the top-tier would be. This would prevent the athletes from just seeing how they were drafted and going “Nah, I’m going to Bama for better pay” and top-tier teams from colluding with high school players to grab them in the case of a disappointing draft.

There would also need to be a rule to keep this NFL minor league from poaching NCAA athletes. Something like, once you’ve signed with a university you are forever ineligible for the minor league and still undraftable by the NFL for three years.

 

The CHL is a completely independent league from the NHL. They hold an annual draft in which they pick 16 and 17 year old players. Those players are then relocated to an entirely different city, and in some cases into another country. (There’s CHL teams in the USA) So if those kids can do it, then why can’t a recently HS grad do it? It’s for competitive balance. Otherwise, if we watch the top 12 highest paying universities in the playoffs every year then people will just stop watching.

 

I like this idea. Good job.

 

I've only been saying this for 30+ years. There's only one league in the entire world that doesn't take ownership of its player development and actually has rules in place (3-year rule) that make sure it never has to. Additionally, that league also happens to be - by far and away - the richest league in the world. But yeah, the "Greedy NCAA" is the bad guy here.

 

Are you proposing it as an option for a kid in high school that only wants to play for pay or all high school kids?

 

Just let the schools control the contracts and compensation, everyone knows it is the institutions that are creating the value anyways. Honestly it would be better than this portal crap we have now, it sucks. If the players want to collectively bargain, go for it.

 

Didn't know anyone was watching. I lived in Tampa last college hockey season and the NCAA Frozen Four was being played, and other than anyone related to the teams or a devout hockey fan, no one even knew it was happening.

 

If they collectively bargain, I think that makes them actual employees of whomever they play for. That means a retirement plan, paid vacations, sick leave, if they get cut, unemployment, etc., and the schools will be on the hook for any and every possible thing that happens to them while playing or practicing in perpetuity. I think athletes would also have to pay state taxes in the states they play games like professionals do. Maybe they do with NIL, anyway. Collective bargaining also opens it up to strikes and lockouts.