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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by GatorLuke, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. gatorpa

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    Not that old, but old enough to sense when coach speak is just fluff.
     
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  2. freedomgator

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    Conveniently I am old enough to sense when forum posts are just fluff.
     
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  3. EastTNG8TR

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    Don't have to.
     
  4. MarineG8R

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    Me neither
     
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  5. Gatorrick22

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    How do you, as a college football player, get an instant pay raise for $2,000 Alex... Portal threat.
     
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  6. volungator

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    It appears to be rarely enforced if it's still on the books. It's definitely a rubber stamp process, if so. There's just been way too much intra-conference movement for it not to be.
     
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  7. volungator

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    We had a LB transfer from Bama back in the late 90s, early 2000s, Travis ?? who had to sit out one year per the old rules and couldn't be put on scolly for two years because he transferred without approval. I think.
     
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  8. Gatorrick22

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    It's sad that in the old days if a player was misled by a coaching staff there was little to no possible way the player/s were getting a fair deal... if their school wanted to be a-holes about transferring to another school
     
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  9. SJB612

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    Travis Carroll.
     
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    Yet Auburn looked about the same as UF this season...guess we will see.
     
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  11. LTG61

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    Just one very bothersome thing:

    during the UFS postgame PC, CBN was asked directly (I'm paraphrasing here), "Looking at your goals and benchmarks, is the program where you'd thought it would be after year two?"

    After some coachspeak hemming and hawing, CBN finally said, "I don't think you can answer that."

    My conclusion: he doesn't actually have a process; he has a method. A method being what you do; and a process being the criteria for evaluatng the effectiveness of the method.

    So, yes. The process is a mystery - even to him.
     
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  12. freedomgator

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    Sounds like the definition of process is a mystery to you.
     
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  13. Wanne15

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    All those teams you named had some coaches that had solid programs at times but no real expect of playoffs and much easier schedules. Napier probably has a winning record given any of those teams schedules. But yes, I hear what you’re saying. It’s been some disorganized mess and he has to get it together. He knows what we know and a whole lot more. I’ve watched the two seasons but tge staff has watched it several times would be my guess. It’s not lost on them that they can’t get the proper number of players on the field and manage a clock. They too know it can’t go on like this. I’m not fixated solely on wins and losses. Losing while playing a well coached game against another well coached team is easier to accept than losing to an average team by dhoooting ourselves in the foot multiple times. Win or lose, we need to look well coached.i could be very satisfied with 7-5 next year or be even more disappointed than I am now depending on how we got there. If we looked like the keystone cops and bumbled our way to 7/5, that’s not very reassuring. We need to see this moving in the right direction.
     
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  14. Wanne15

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    I guess you know something the money guys don’t?
     
  15. Wanne15

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    They need to find some middle ground. I don’t see how much can be done unless players became employees and had contracts though. I don’t know much about it other than seeing how every other sports league in the world is structured. College football is the only one on the entire planet with this hairbrain setup.
     
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  16. tegator80

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    I see a simple evolution. Today is the Wild, Wild West. The next step is for the "homesteaders" to demand civility and structure. In this setup, it means you get rid of what does not work (ie, they get cut, which is happening today but not as much as they will in the future). Then the players will get "smart" because of what they think is an unfair setup (really it will be their lawyers who will be the smart ones, not some HS/Post-HS players) and they will become unionized.

    And then will be the final step: an unvarnished, plainly mercenary-motivated, minor league professional sport attached to a university for some odd reason. I guess you could say the arrangement will be like having gondolas in Venice; they are obsolete but the "fans" demand they remain. We shall see.

    And as I have said plenty of times, there is a very high likelihood that I will find something else to do on fall Saturdays...or Thursday and Friday nights. And maybe even Wednesday nights. We have no idea how things will shake out. You want TV money, you have to play by the money's rules.
     
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    I think they altered it…I believe they can now transfer in conference during the early transfer window without sitting but not the second/spring. Or something like that.
     
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  18. spike718

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    Yeah, back then if you transferred without being released you had to sit an additional year on top of the year you sat out for staying in conference. Pretty hard core.
     
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    College football is quickly becoming a poorly run minor league simply sponsored by universities. Without some kind of mechanism to keep the best players from flocking to the handful of “best” teams (limited free agency, payroll caps, etc) the only thing left is pretending that the players and coaches “represent” the school and hoping the fans fall for it. Look at what just happened to the PAC. All the traditional rivalries and history just went poof overnight so that the schools could make a bigger profit. And now a team in Austin and one from Norman are in the “Southeast” but of course it’s just the “SEC” now, a meaningless three-letters with little connection to the underlying words.

    I’m trying like hell to stay interested but as of now it’s mostly just morbid curiosity.
     
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  20. volungator

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    I fear the UF will never again be relevant as a college football powerhouse. Our future will look very much like the historical past of Virginia, NC, Cal, Maryland, etc. I think we'll occasionally have a great year and might even make it to the final four but NC's are over for UF. If not for the expansion to a 12-team playoff, we would very seldom (once every 7-10 years) make the four-team configuration. I ABSOLUTELY HATE what has occurred to once the greatest amateur sport ever. The future of this sport SUCKS. I'm glad my aging out.