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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

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  1. GratefulGator

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    I wonder what else we will find out about Netanyahoo the more we peel the onion...
    I wouldn't be surprised if this was a false flag operation.
     
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    Which side do you believe is the honest one here?
     
  4. gator95

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    The side that hasn’t raped, kidnapped and murdered innocent civilians in an unprovoked attack. Is it really that hard to grasp?
     
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    What do you believe the word honest means?
     
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  6. BigCypressGator1981

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    the binary thinking when it comes to this conflict is perplexing.
     
  7. duchen

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    Weapons hidden under UNRWA equipment and a mosque used as a terror base by Islamic Jihad. More examples of what the word calls “genocide” when Jews destroy them. Israel-Hamas war: IDF finds rockets, missiles hidden under UNRWA boxes. Another post that will be ignored while posters continue to complain about genocide, disproportionate responses etc. The reality of terrorists operating in these areas is irrelevant to those whose attitude is that Jews should let them do so and that responding is war crimes.
     
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    Anyone who calls Israel’s resolve genocide is spreading an anti-Semitic message. If you want to know what genocide is, check out what happened on or to Cambodia, the Holocaust or Armenians. This isn’t that.
     
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    You have to ignore a lot of data— and Hamas’ own statements- to call October 7 a false flag operation. And claiming that Israel killed 1200 of its own people on October 7 is about as despicable as it gets. There are words for that kind of falsehood but it is against the rules to use them here. It must suck for you and people like you to see Jews able to defend themselves, doesn’t it.
     
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  10. duchen

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    it means to tell the truth. It means that words like genocide or false flag operations aren’t honest.
     
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  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    No they are not. They simply disagree on what constitutes genocide and whether or not it meets that threshold. Attacking people for using the word genocide is just to avoid talking about 4,000 dead Palestinian children.
     
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    Can we agree that things like rape, kidnapping, and murder are not on the honest/dishonest axis?
     
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    This war has been an Israeli offensive operation for weeks now.
     
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    Agreed…war casualties are not genocide.

    It is amazing how language evolves over time to the benefit of one political party to shape their narrative.

    I.e. casualties of war are now genocide.
     
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    Every honest person I’ve met never raped, kidnapped or murdered innocent people. You think Israel isn’t being honest? My question would be how anyone could believe what Hamas is saying as the truth? Their goal is to murder as many Jews as possible.
     
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    If you want to call it casualties of war instead of genocide I don’t care. It’s 4,000 dead children. Whatever the word is for that.
     
  19. duchen

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    No. They are bigots. Their claims deserve no credit, deference and are not differences in semantics. Any, anyone who refuses to call them out for the accusation is as good as complicit.

    According to the Oxford Dictionary, The definition of genocide is the murder of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group, with the aim of destroying that nation or group

    genocide noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

    This is genocide.

    Cambodia

    Lasting for four years (between 1975 and 1979), the Cambodian Genocide was an explosion of mass violence that saw between 1.5 and 3 million people killed at the hands of the Khmer Rouge, a communist political group. The Khmer Rouge had taken power in the country following the Cambodian Civil War. During their brutal four-year rule, the Khmer Rouge was responsible for the deaths of nearly a quarter of Cambodians.

    And this is genocide: (pretty rich to hear Edrogan use those words while he wistfully references the Ottoman Empire)

    Armenian Genocide | Genocide Studies Program

    The first non-colonial genocide of the twentieth-century was the Armenian catastrophe in the Ottoman Empire during World War I. It started in early 1915, when the Young Turk regime rounded up hundreds of Armenians and hanged many of them in the streets of Istanbul, before beginning the genocidal deportation of most of the Armenian population to the desert, in which up to a million died or were murdered en route.

    This is genocide:
    The Holocaust

    In January 20, 1942, the Wannsee conference was convened by SS General Reinhard Heydrich, chief of the Reich Security Main Office, and attended by 15 high-ranking Nazi and German officials at a villa in Wannsee—a city on the outskirts of Berlin. They gathered to discuss and coordinate the “Final Solution of the Jewish Question,” which is code for the use of death camps to exterminate all 11,000,000 Jews of Europe.
     
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  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    lol no they are not bigots. They just disagree with you. Good lord.