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Johnson set to oppose Santos' expulsion

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Dec 1, 2023.

  1. sierragator

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    buh bye
     
  2. WarDamnGator

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    This, BTW, looks like the second time Johnson has allowed the Dems to override the republican majority in his short tenure… did he have to call this vote or something? Most republicans voted “no”…
     
  3. wgbgator

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    Damn, you have to be really bad at crime to be expelled from the US government. He should run for president now.
     
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  4. jeffbrig

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    I just checked his resume, and he's pretty good. He was OC for both Georgia and Kansas City last year - at the same time! I had no idea!
     
  5. WarDamnGator

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    I'm just not sure the team needs the distraction with his girlfriend, Talyor Swift, getting a lot of attention as the games.
     
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  6. Gatoragman

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    If the vote was 311, doesn't that mean about half the pubs voted to expel. Oh!!!!! Doesn't fir the narrative that he went against the pubs wishes!
     
  7. BLING

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    Not actually a majority of Republicans though. Probably would have been if the “leadership” didn’t try to protect him at the last second.
     
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  8. WarDamnGator

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    The Narrative ... LOL? Try facts ... first off, this was 2/3rds vote, not a 50% +1 vote; secondly, 112 Pubs voted "no", over 105 voting "yes" ...

    Johnson did in fact let the dems expel one of their own over his own party's wishes.

    How does that fit your narrative?
     
  9. GatorRade

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    To be fair, I would also say that 105/217 is about half. Though I have no idea how to apply this to the for/against Republican wishes claim.

    Regardless, I think getting nearly 50% of a party to vote to expel one of their own should be seen in an overall positive light. The Republicans have had some low moments on this front in the last few years, so I think we should appreciate the step forward here.
     
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  10. WarDamnGator

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    Looks like there will be a special election, apparently the governor has up to 80 days to call a special election.
     
  11. WarDamnGator

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    My overall point is that the republican's "Hastert Rule" (named after a former Republican speaker who was later called a "serial child molester" by his sentencing judge) says they don't call votes unless they know the bill will pass with a republican majority voting "yes". (there is also the Bohner modification, that says they don't call votes unless they know the bill will pass solely based on republican support, and that's the version Gaetz supported to oust McCarthy)... so why did Johnson call this vote when republicans were below 50% within their own party for a resolution that needed 66% to pass?
     
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  12. Gatoragman

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    Whatever, the dems didn't expel him!! 2/3rds of the Congress did, and it took both parties to do that. Obviously not against what nearly half the pubs wanted. I guess that's right, in the dem world you can't vote how you feel. must fall in line and all vote as one!!
     
  13. GatorRade

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    Apologies. You have me out of my depth here. While they don’t seem all that admirable, I can see why they would make such rules, but I have no idea why they would break their own rules here. Perhaps they were surprised. Dunno.
     
  14. Gatoragman

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    Or...... Perhaps those were made up Democrats perceived rules???
     
  15. BLING

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    Actually it’s a Republican “made up” rule.

    Wasn’t one of the triggering reasons McCarthy was out because he broke the rule (passed a funding bill with mostly dem votes)?

    It’s a dumb rule, especially when you only have a 4 vote majority to begin with.
     
  16. WarDamnGator

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    I don't know either, I thought maybe there was some procedure invoked that forced McCarthy to call this vote where they normally would not have ...
     
  17. BLING

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    Maybe it would have just been embarrassing to NOT call the vote after the ethics committee’s final report basically said “yeah, it’s even worse than you all thought”? Or perhaps there was even an automatic trigger after the ethics committee process?
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    go
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    he hurts the pubs so it helps them, screw the country. it is why Johnson is soh now and why they want trump as the pub candidate
     
  19. G8trGr8t

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    there is substantial documented evidence that he has committed multiple crimes. if that happens again, the next criminal should be expelled too.
     
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  20. channingcrowderhungry

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    I know it isn't how it works, but it should be limited to Republican candidates. Expel shitty members without the fear of losing a seat.
     
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