Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Was listening to a clip on the way to work that said Israel, or someone(s) in Israel, has taken control of the Hamas[dot]com domain and made it look like a recruiting pitch for Hamas. The interesting thing about it is that the pagecis being flagged for hosting malware.

Link to article describing what happened, not the questionable domain itself > الصفحة الرئيسية | مسبار

As I was looking for a link and stumbled upon some relevant info in the cyber domain.

Nov 23
Israel-Hamas War Spotlight: Shaking the Rust Off SysJoker - Check Point Research
(Checkpoint was founded in Israel)

Key Findings

• Check Point Research is actively tracking the evolution of SysJoker, a previously publicly unattributed multi-platform backdoor, which we asses was utilized by a Hamas-affiliated APT to target Israel.
• Among the most prominent changes is the shift to Rust language, which indicates the malware code was entirely rewritten, while still maintaining similar functionalities. In addition, the threat actor moved to using OneDrive instead of Google Drive to store dynamic C2 (command and control server) URLs.
• Analysis of newly discovered variants of SysJoker revealed ties to previously undisclosed samples of Operation Electric Powder, a set of targeted attacks against Israeli organizations between 2016-2017 that were loosely linked to the threat actor known as Gaza Cybergang.

Nov 13
Israel warns of BiBi wiper attacks targeting Linux and Windows

Data-wiping attacks are becoming more frequent on Israeli computers as researchers discovered variants of the BiBi malware family that destroys data on both Linux and Windows systems.

An analysis of the attacks from researchers at Palo Alto Networks Unit42 attributes the data wiping attacks to a threat actor that has "strong connections to an Iranian-backed APT group" tracked as Agonizing Serpens (a.k.a. Agrius, BlackShadow, Pink Sandstorm, and DEV-0022).

To prevent easy system restoration, the malware also deletes the shadow copies that hold system snapshots from an earlier state and are often used to recover data and settings.

And how can you not mention the Israeli company NSO Group and their highly controversial Peagasus software.

Nov 14
https://www.axios.com/2023/11/14/pegasus-nso-hamas-israel-spyware

The Israeli government appears to be turning to controversial spyware maker NSO Group to help track those kidnapped and murdered by Hamas in the last month, according to a source with direct knowledge of NSO's operations.

Why it matters: NSO has come under fire for providing governments with surveillance technology that they have later used to spy on journalists, dissidents and human rights activists.

What's happening: According to the NSO-linked source, several Israeli agencies are likely using Pegasus — a "zero-click" malware that can be snuck onto a target's device without them knowing — to help track people kidnapped by Hamas, as well as people who have gone missing during Hamas' attack last month.

 

Don't think this lawsuit can go anywhere, but interesting local filing

Muslim Citizens of the State of Israel; Non-Israeli State Citizens Indigenous Palestinians; The Peoples of the U.S.A.; Christopher N. Wieland
v.
United States of America; Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; Anthony J. Blinken; Lloyd James Austin III
11/26/2023 8:23 cv 2697 Barber
(Tampa)

Declaratory judgment. Defendants have ignored war crimes committed by Israel.

Pro se

 

So you are for the killing of people whose opinion you find abhorrent, even if they did absolutely nothing to act upon it? That's one hell of a precedent.

 

Aslo, it's kinda hard to square that with the children being killed, who I'd assume didn't participate in that poll.

 

I'm not for the killing of anyone but Hamas, but if adults are for the massacre in Israel then I won't care what happens to them. Sounds like most Palestinians are in support of Hamas. So that is their choice. Choices have consequences.

 

Even if that "choice" is nothing more than a mere opinion? How about if the US starts locking up people who supported, without involvement, the Jan6 "tourists" or believe the 2000 election was stolen?

 

The whole “they deserve it” narrative to justify the deaths of innocents is truly disgusting. Islamophobes gonna islamaphobe.

 

Really dude? That's your argument? About a bunch of idiots where 1 person died compared to 1,300+ dead and hundreds abducted? That is literally too dumb to even respond to.

 

LOL. If people are cheering for the genocide of another race, then I won't lose sleep over them losing their life. I know, crazy thought.

 

For decades Palestinians as a whole have cheered and openly supported the genocide of Israel. It was in Hamas charter when Palestine voted them
Into power. They still cheer and openly chant from the river to the sea and are clearly ok with the rape torture kidnapping and murder of Israelis. But now that Israel has been attacked in the most heinous and cowardly war and is responding as any nation would… now we are to believe these are all innocent and any life taken in the war that is not wearing their Hamas tribute pin is an act of genocide?
No one on here has called for innocent children to be killed. No one on here wants innocent adults murdered but at the same time most realize two things
Hamas (Palestinians) started this war with their savage brutal attack
2. Palestinians have been calling for the genocide of Israel for decades ( hell we have a senator calling for it here in the states).
Those two factors are why most side with Israel and understand that this is a war they did not start.
Hell they gave 48 hours of warning before the attack began.. that’s not genocide.

 

"Hell they gave 48 hours of warning before the attack began.. that’s not genocide."


What a ridiculous comment. (I am not suggesting Israel is guilty of genocide, just that this advance warning thing is beyond silly.)

 

How many hours advance notice did Hamas give? You don’t notify the people you hope to wipe out that bombing in this certain location will begin in 48 hours.. move south of this line for your own safety. That’s not what anyone does when trying to commit genocide.
If anything is silly, it’s the accusation or support of the accusation that Israel is committing genocide.

 

I'm pretty sure most genocides involve some kind of advance warning that is nearly impossible to comply with, its called creating a pretext/justification

 

Genocide (per the 1948 UN Genocide Convention) is defined as the intentional destruction "in whole or in part a national, ethnical,racial or religous group"

Which part of the definition does Hamas fall under? They are a terrorist organization that imbeds with civilians to prey on the sympathies of those who have some sort of a moral compass. If you've seen any of the videos from 10/7 that were selectively released to media, as I have, and watched for example the hand gliders at the music festival shouting with joy and glee while actually committing genocide and rape you'd also conclude there is no moral compass in that group. It's sheer evil. The most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life. And they were in rapture while doing so.

So what's Israel to do? Fight a war with one arm tied behind their backs waiting for another attack. Because Hamas has already said it will happen.

Cease fire? There was a cease fire in place on 10/6. Who broke it? Almost 20,000 Gazans peacefully crossed into the remainder of Israel every day to work among other Israelis. Think that's happening now? The Isrealis effectively left Gaza almost 20 years ago and this is how the Palestinians have governed their de facto state for two decades. By electing terrorists. And Israel hardly has the Gazans "imprisoned" in Gaza as I have read. Gaza shares a border with Egypt, who has historically not allowed them into the country. Why not? And where is the rest of the Arab world on this? And has miles and miles of coastline of the Mediterranean from which to leave by sea. Yet they all choose to stay. At some point complicity is participation when the stated goal is extermination. A cold but true fact.

I had numerous family members lost in the Holocaust. And others in the Bolshevik revolution. People who never spawned cousins that I could met. Cousins who never spawned the aunts and uncles that my children could ever meet. 6 million bred over 3 generations equals about 60 million. 60 million Jews never born. And that's Hamas' goal. They are Hitler.

As horrific (and they truly are) as the conditions are in Gaza, asking Israel to cease and desist is the equivalent of telling a rape victim they may as well relax and enjoy it, cause its coming. Not an option. Sorry, it just isn't.

The Palestinians in Gaza could have prevented this by not electing Hamas, a virulent hate group who has stolen billions of dollars of humanitarian aid to buy weapons instead of food, in every election when presented with an opportunity to self-govern.

 

There is only one party in this conflict capable of carrying out a genocide, and its the one with the apparatus of a state, nuclear weapons and the backing of a world super power with all those things too. The argument that "well Hamas would do that if they had those things" is just an excuse to do evil acts. You can always say the people you are harming would do the same to you if they could. Common excuse for racists too, they think the people they are oppressing will oppress them if allowed to, it serves to justify their racism. In this case, anti-Semitism is their excuse to wipe out a people and take their land.

 

I'm not really sure how what Hamas did is relevant to whether Israel is committing genocide. Israel did give notice but knew beyond a doubt that many civilians would still die (including women and children) when they dropped those bombs. I don't think it quite meets the threshold for genocide but I see the argument.

Frankly, what's really disappointing is how little impact they've had on Hamas so far relative to civilian casualties. If Israel had killed more Hamas it would make the bombings seem less indiscriminate than they appear.

 

Sorry I'm not going to excuse the innocent, random slaughter of almost 1500 Israelis living their lives peacefully simply because they were on the side with better infrastructure and more guns. This is a fuse Bebe has likely wanted to light for years and Hamas handed him a match in the form of a blow torch and a reason for the rest of the world to support him. It was truly the stupidest thing they could have done for those legitimately innocent Gazans and shows their level of care for their own people, which is none or they wouldn't imbed with them. Hamas is both evil and gutless.

And we have no idea who is funding Hamas and what their resources may ultimately become, just like the Germans who in 1939 saw what was starting to go on and said 'well it's only a few of them".

We'll just have to agree to disagree as I don't expect to sway you, and as this is personal to me I know you can't sway me.

 

Sure. Hamas has expressed their desire to commit genocide of the Jews since their inception. Fortunately they're inept, and incapable of bringing their violent wet dreams to fruition, though effective enough to have provided the actual justification for their own extermination.

But as 'north pointed out, they are a criminal enterprise /terrorist organization, not a race or people (that would be the greater group known as Palestinians--who effeively hide behind their proxy, Hamas).

 

That will happen if you take the Israelis at their word that this conflict is about Hamas. Their reluctance for a ceasefire tells the tale. Simply by negotiating with Hamas, they reveal their lack of capability to destroy or even disrupt them significantly.

 

If that is true there is no reason to fear them or punish an entire people for whatever they say their desires are. Its like bombing an entire city because the Klan says they want a white ethno-state, one in which they have no capacity to achieve. And if Israel truly feared them, they wouldnt have enabled them all these years to avoid a two-state solution.