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PROJECTING NEXT SEASON

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doctorg8r, Jan 27, 2023.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    I noticed one simple teaching fail that would have been enough to win the Arkansas game, the Missouri game and the FSU game... If our defense had been taught open field tackling... Even the Kentucky game could have been a win.

    I see 4 more wins this year if we had that simple teachable skill set. Imagine what could have been if not for one simple teachable skill...

    The coaches always rant about the attention to details.. well there is one detail that would have had instant tangible results for the better.
     
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  2. crl

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    IMO good tackling is mainly about strength and “want to”. Not sure that can be “taught” but it can be improved with great strength training, proper “nutrition” and proper “motivation” if you get my drift. ;) We seem to have lacked all three for quite awhile now.
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    Yeah, it is taught... and it can be taught to our players. I learned it in Pop Warner... but every season we had to re-learn it becasue it's a very perishable skill ... but equally teachable skill too.
     
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  4. crl

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    Ain’t no amount of “teaching” (at least as I define it) going to help a 150 lb weakling tackle a 230 lb beast. Especially if he doesn’t want to.
     
  5. Gatorrick22

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    Hyperbole much? Lol But just to play along, yes, a 150 pound man can take down someone that weighs 230. But that's not specifically what I'm talking about. Although... leverage is part of open field tackling.

    All I'm saying is that angles and just tackling from behind is also part of open field tackling. It does encompass all of that. But we never just tackle the ball carrier when we need to, in a timely fashion. And hardly ever gang tackle like e used to.

    I see skinny DBs tackle the biggest tight ends by simply taking out their legs. That is leverage used properly. But tackling is more than just leverage. It takes practice to teach it properly so I expect that all off season we will be re-learning how many different situations require learning different techniques... and the all have to do with proper angles and leverage.

    It's far more comprehension than I made it sound originally, and it will take some time to get those many techniques down to a simple reaction.
     
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  6. gatorwalrus

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    Spot on. The best part is the come on man he got for it.
     
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  7. kryptonite

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    Kimber never saw a tackle he wanted involved in. Teaching wasn't going to do any more for him. He was directly responsible for 2 TD against FSU by choosing not to fill the hole to stop or re-direct Benson on one TD and by not putting his body on Benson to get him out of bounds on the other TD. That lack of desire isn't the case with the young guys like Castell and Thornton, and Hill was a much more aggressive tackler this year than in previous years.
     
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  8. freedomgator

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    Holy old thread
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    No... bad editing on my part. It's a perishable skill that is also very teachable.
     
  10. Gatorrick22

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    Even he can be taught how to properly take angle and tackle in the open field.
     
  11. kryptonite

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    If he hasn't done it for the coaching at Georgia and Florida where others are developing and sticking their man, it isn't going to happen for him. This has to be a lack of want to problem.
     
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  12. Gatorrick22

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    Remind me why you mentioned UGA? Are you talking about Napier?
     
  13. propagator

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    Think it's about the Gator DB that transferred from Georgia
     
  14. Gatorrick22

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    He's slow? He's not as good as their other 5* star recruits?
    He didn't the his position coached at UGA?
    He never wanted to really tackle big opposing team's ball carrier?
    He thought it would be easier for him to get on the field at Florida?
    He did want to learn open field tackling?
    The practices were too hard?

    Pick one... or make one up. If you think he can't learn open field tackling then maybe he should be on a football field in college. I would rather we lose a player of two becasue our practices are too hard than to keep a player that's too soft to earn what he needs to learn.

    Now, I am not saying that's the case with this player.. sometimes they end up on a team that lied to them...
     
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  15. kryptonite

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    I thought you were saying that Kimber could be taught angles and tackling in the open. I disagreed to that by saying he has been a lack of desire guy. He was supposedly in line to start for Uga before transferring to us.
     
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  16. Gatorrick22

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    I did....can you read what I said?