Serious question for you: If I told you a UF just took a transfer from Penn State that had 300 yards and 2 TDS over the course of two years there, would you consider that a good take? Or would you think you just signed a third or fourth string RB they used in garbage time? That is not a lot of production over two years for a RB. Have you watched Johnny Wilson play football? His hands were a major, major concern and still are. He had a little relapse at the start of the season where he had a case of the drops. Lucky he worked through it.
You make it should like he was a cannnot miss prospect when he was a composite 3*, the #21 rated RB his year, and the #375 prospect nationally. He also had a very, very major knee injury. He tore his ACL, MCL, meniscus, and the tendon and loss over 20 pounds. As I agreed with @apkgator about, RBs either have it or the don’t. Not a lot of coaching there. However, FSU S&C program did a lot for Benson.
Your entire stance was the bulk of transfers were development guys. We have shown the exact opposite to be true. Lovett being injured has nothing to do with him coming to FSU needing development. Morlock has 19 catches at FSU this season....he caught more in both his fresh and soph seasons elsewhere. That's scheming to get him the ball and "develop" him? LOL OF course every school has them. But your argument that FSU developed most of these kids is patently false. It's not even remotely close. An overwhelming % arrived at FSU as productive college players. Period.
Actually my point that started this was that a lot of the core of the FSU team has come from high school recruiting. I have conceded that FSU took a lot of P5 ready talent in the portal but has also developed other talent they got in the portal. I think the argument we are actually having is whether or not Norvell and his staff can develop talent versus just bringing it in from other programs. Jordan Travis and Johnny Wilson are two examples that show they can.
Thats not true on my end. I've not said Norvell can't develop. I stated the overwhelming majority (contributors especially)of the team is upper classmen , and most of the stars and leaders are transfers. What iwas debating with you was you said "what many people are overblooking is that the transfers were developed by Norvell. I feel like the reason he brought them in(like Any team would) is because they have already been through the early development stage. Which after looking proved correct as most of the transfers came in from P5 schools with legitimate S&C programs. And most of them spent the 1st 2 years at that school, which is generally known that the 1st 2 years is the time you usually see the most development of college players.
Mods can we move fsu posts to an fsu recruiting thread or other schools' thread? Ordinarily I enjoy tangents but Jeremiah Smith deserves better.
I'll leave it at this as @fox has asked nicely to return this thread to J. Smith. Some of the transfers that turned into stars were very big question marks when they arrived at FSU with Wilson and Benson being two of them. If you want to continue to this discussion, we can take it over to the Non-gator recruiting thread.
yea i think Smith is firm to OSU but if he flips I would think if it’s a Florida school, it would be Florida before FSU and i know he not going to Miami
I think Wilson performance being the rated among top true freshman WR this year will get his attention. Wilson is #18th in the nation and #1 among all freshman WRs in receptions per game with 6.4 catches a game. He has 502 yards on 58 rec for an avg of 6.4 and 6 TDs in 10 games. I Imagine that can't hurt with Smith
If we can get the OL straight that would be an attractive proposition to play with Wilson (and Lagway). Wilson was also hurt and missed a game or two this season.
Sorry to pile on FSU recruiting discussion in this thread, but what do you all think happened in the summer with the upgrade in FSU recruiting? Before that point, it seemed we really were going to recruit better than the other in-State schools and it might only be a year before we had a more talented roster... then BAM! FSU starts getting top commits and beginning a trend that is continuing through this cycle. Did they not have a NIL organization before summer? Were they not using it well? Did it get replaced or something like ours?
I’m thinking winning at FSU has helped create a buy in all around with NIL and it’s trickled down to recruiting
Seems they used their cash in the transfer portal and have started investing in highschool players this year. They had cash flow alm along.
Its pretty simple isn't it? When I was 17 I wanted as much of cash, fly rides, and HoPOA as I could get my hands on, and winning wasn't bad either. Sadly I didn't have the a lot of the "talents" needed to get to much of any of the three
Enough discussion of the SOW. They have their own boards (I think) to discuss their program but this is a Florida Gators board. Thanks.
