Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

You Think Florida Education is in Bad Shape?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Jun 1, 2023.

Page 3 of 5
  1. Nov 18, 2023 #41
    PITBOSS

    PITBOSS GC Hall of Fame

    7,335
    728
    548
    Apr 13, 2007


    wow, this thread is causing some angry rants.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2023
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. Nov 18, 2023 #42
    citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    10,151
    2,225
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Education is the key to success in all cultures and that is definitely some serious commitment to it.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. Nov 18, 2023 #43
    cron78

    cron78 GC Legend

    994
    431
    218
    Feb 25, 2022
    Overkill, but not unexpected for a culture rooted in conformance and performance.
     
  4. Nov 18, 2023 #44
    chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,040
    1,758
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    What I remember most about the college admissions tests were the commercial jet aircraft occasionally taking off from JAX airport nearby, barely audible in a quiet auditorium. It seems to have helped my math score (750/800), but did not do much for my verbal score (much less). If you can't survive a few distractions, you aren't going to make it in college anyway.
     
  5. Nov 18, 2023 #45
    stingbb

    stingbb Premium Member

    4,158
    737
    2,543
    Apr 3, 2007
    Education in Florida is not in bad shape. Of course, I live in Sarasota (where my wife is a teacher and son is a coach/ athletic director) which was recognized this week as having the top school system in the state of Florida.

    Kids can succeed in Florida public schools if they have support and encouragement from parents. If they don’t, it’s a whole lot more difficult.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  6. Nov 18, 2023 #46
    GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

    24,172
    2,455
    1,868
    Apr 3, 2007
    (He's just having one of his little tantrums.)
     
  7. Nov 19, 2023 #47
    chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,040
    1,758
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Education is pretty bad in west Florida. Some county commissioners were caught 20 years ago buying and selling property between themselves and the county at great reward to themselves (and great punishment to the taxpayers), costing the county millions of dollars. The school system has not completely recovered yet. For years, county teachers made 20% less salary than teachers with the same qualifications in the next county, much less Atlanta. The best teachers bailed out of the county years ago. There aren't any regular high schools rated above average in the county. Middle schools and elementary schools, with few exceptions, aren't much better. The county has no clue what to do with the failing schools.
     
  8. Nov 19, 2023 #48
    Spurffelbow833

    Spurffelbow833 GC Hall of Fame

    9,421
    686
    1,293
    Jan 9, 2009
    Get rid of the periodic table and we'll all be shitting gold.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  9. Nov 19, 2023 #49
    duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,302
    1,105
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Why would they cut out evolutiondiditism ?
     
  10. Nov 19, 2023 #50
    AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,515
    755
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    Same, but Seminole county. Schools are generally excellent.

    But as I have always said; between the teacher’s union and the politicians, most kids don’t stand a chance.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  11. Nov 19, 2023 #51
    l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    12,544
    1,670
    2,868
    Jan 6, 2009
    There are certainly times when teachers unions don’t have students best interests in mind, but at the same time to the degree they protect their own interests, like salary and benefits, it helps them be able to stay longer and on balance experience is better than not.
     
  12. Nov 19, 2023 #52
    swampbabe

    swampbabe GC Hall of Fame

    3,603
    904
    2,643
    Apr 8, 2007
    Viera, FL
    The teachers’ unions in this state are relatively useless. It’s an overused talking point with no real basis in fact, at least in Florida
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. Nov 19, 2023 #53
    swimGator

    swimGator VIP Member

    191
    125
    1,913
    Nov 25, 2009
    Washington D.C.
    Not as out of shape as our Defensive Coordinator.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  14. Nov 19, 2023 #54
    AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,515
    755
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    Please. How many times in your apparently long career have you seen someone who should be terminated be protected by the unions?
     
  15. Nov 20, 2023 #55
    swampbabe

    swampbabe GC Hall of Fame

    3,603
    904
    2,643
    Apr 8, 2007
    Viera, FL
    Never
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  16. Nov 20, 2023 #56
    archigator_96

    archigator_96 GC Hall of Fame

    3,571
    3,510
    1,923
    Apr 8, 2020
    Meh, that periodic table is confusing as hell and impossible to memorize.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  17. Nov 20, 2023 #57
    92gator

    92gator GC Hall of Fame

    13,729
    14,220
    3,363
    Jun 14, 2007
    What's your point? Slavery ended in Florida months before. The Civil War ended in April. "Juneteenth"--the actual, de facto end of slavery (last gasp in the last bastion...)--obviously happened months before as well. 12/6 was simply the final ratifying of the Amendment to the USC that formalized it. It's on par with August 18, 1920. A significant Amendment was ratified. What's more--everybody knows July 4, 1776--most are not aware of June 21, 1788. Are we to infer something nefarious from that?
     
  18. Nov 22, 2023 #58
    chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,040
    1,758
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Not sure if you were joking. Speaking as a chemical engineer, you don't have to memorize it to be able to use it. Elements in the same columns have some properties in common, as their outer electron levels often have the same number of electrons.
     
  19. Nov 22, 2023 #59
    AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,515
    755
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    Well that brings us to two options:

    Either you have low standards( which I doubt given your posts), or you’re being disingenuous( which I suspect given your posts.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  20. Nov 22, 2023 #60
    swampbabe

    swampbabe GC Hall of Fame

    3,603
    904
    2,643
    Apr 8, 2007
    Viera, FL
    Nope, sorry.

    There is a third option and that is that you are full of baloney, which is the most likely.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
Page 3 of 5