UBL has a point?

yep, a bot is brighter than her

 

We had another thread on this, much of what caused it to go "viral" was guy who started a twitter thread about it being viral which increased the traffic and scope dramatically. What does "UBL had a point" even mean? Terrorists do have political motivations, they arent nihilists. He mentioned stuff in his manifesto that other people who arent terrorists have criticized America for correctly. So what? Only idiots think terrorists hate America "for its freedoms." I dont think 20 somethings are going to become Islamic jihadists. There are plenty of other things you can be if you think American imperialism is bad.

 

Things that are outrageous often go viral, which I assume is a big reason people post some of the stuff they do; they want clicks, attention, money. Whether the algorithm or bots actively push this sort of stuff or whether it's more organic, I don't know. Probably important to keep in mind though that many, many people watching or posting about these sorts of videos aren't necessarily agreeing with the content and may find it affirmatively offensive and concerning.

 

The age thing doesn't make sense. Most of the idiotic and obvious fake news I see posted on Facebook is from people above 60.

Yes, I believe social media causes a lot of harm to our society, both young and old. It's still in its infancy and I hope our society figures that part out. Advertisers are fleeing Twittwer (I'll never call it X) because Elon himself has started tweeting antisemitic stuff. That's a great thing. Hit them in their pocketbook. But government involvement and movements on free speech is a non-starter for me.

 

Thanks for the tip.

That guy has everyone who doesn't sing in perfect harmony with the neo-prog Leftist chorus on ignore, so his op's only show up with the chorus line's feed.

Perfect insulated snowglobe bliss! (I imagine).

LOL!

 

Always thought Right Wing Christian extremists had more in common with OBL and The Taliban than any liberals I know. I mean, swap the words "Islam" for "Christianity" in what they are saying and I bet they'd agree with everything.

 

Going viral next: young conservatives reacting to Bin Laden's manifesto like "you take the stuff about American empire and support for Israel out, there's a lot to like about this guy, he's got a point about the gays and cultural decadence"

 

Age limits to buy Tide pods

 

That's a very mature - and open-minded - way to approach these issues. America is far from perfect, and some criticism is justified and ought to be taken seriously. Our support over the years of Israel in light of its treatment of the Palestinians is shameful in the eyes of many, but it has been realpolitik. Foreign policy is messy business. One might say there are no friendships, just interests which our leaders think are necessary for the country. They have occasionally been wrong, e.g., Vietnam.

 

We were not wrong about Viet Nam. It was a poorly executed and costly battle front in the cold war. We lost the battle, but stopped the advancement of communism in southeast Asia. And of course ultimately won the cold war.

....and Isreal is our closest ally in the middle east. They are surrounded by nations who don't just want to, but are hell bent determined, to exterminate them (and us, mostly for standing with them, and preventing the whole of the Arabic world from doing what they so desperately want to--xtermin8 the Jews). Seems kind of pretentious to second guess how they go about staying alive.

So sure, we've been wrong on things--but not the 2 you mentioned.

 

We did? I thought all of Vietnam became communist after we lost. They even installed a communist client state in Cambodia after driving out the Khmer Rouge.

 

I said we lost viet nam. But the spreading pretty much stopped at the peninsula--ok, add Laos and Cambodia--that's pretty much it. It didn't take in the Phillipines, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Brunei, Burma, Indonesia...

 

Did YOU serve in Vietnam? We didnt stop shit and lost tens of thousands of lives.

I don't completely disagree about the situation in the middle east. You need to read my comment on that more carefully and be less knee-jerk. Realpolitik means we care less about friends than interests. Nothing is as black or white as you like to make things.

 

I was 5 y/o when the VN war ended, so no, I did not serve in VN. I used 'we' just as you used 'our' ('...our support of Israel..')--i.e. -- the US.

You cited Viet Nam as something *we* did that was wrong. That's consistent with modern conventional thinking. I disagree with that notion, which is why i bothered to chime in. I don't think VN was a mistake. It was executed poorly in many respects, but at the end of the day, it served to save more than was lost in terms of cold war containment.

Here today, in Ukraine, what are we doing? Same thing (containment, though no 'boots on the ground') while the threat modern day Russia poses is laughable compared to the threat of global communism in the 60's-70's.

...as for Isreal--the Palestinians regularly BOMB Israel.

What @#$%%#n humanitarian garbage treatment do you propose for a people who teach their kids to hate and kill you and yours, and actually try to @$%#n BOMB you so regularly that you need a rocket defense system active at all times?!?!??!

Has anyone yet uttered a syllable about how Ukraine must restrain itself in responding to Russia?!?!?

So again, not wrong. And very much clear as day, black n white. Anyone who suggests otherwise is simply misguided/malinformed.

 

Nah ... just a day ago I was watching a video of a Christian preacher yelling to his congregation stuff like "Jesus first came and gave his blood, now he's coming back for the blood of his enemies ..." and going on and on about Jesus' lust for revenge and the death of the non-believers ...

Just kept thinking if you put a beard on him and changed one word in his sermon, from "Jesus" to "Allah", someone like you would start a post on Too Hot under of the "all Muslims are evil" variety ...

 

Well we aided the Indonesians in killing perhaps a million people to accomplish that one, and that was before our large scale involvement in Vietnam too. I suppose you could say Vietnam was more honorable since we sent actual Americans to do our dirty work. But that resulted in the largest anti-war movement in American history to that point.

Anti-communist mass killings - Wikipedia