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  1. mrhansduck

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    I don't know if he's actually enforced that one, but I'm always concerned, frustrated, and confused by the things that bother him and those that don't.
     
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    hmmm...Forbes doesn't assign a value to Putin but I am fairly confident he is the richest. Goes to show that being rich and able to afford bad choices does not equate to being right or moral
     
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  10. channingcrowderhungry

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    I mean. I would have loved to see his legal argument for why an advertiser can't pull their ads if they're being featured next to antisemitism....
     
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    I’m happy to see Elon go down in flames, but looking at this, could somebody explain how this is antisemitic? It is arguably ill informed and xenophobic towards immigrants in general, but not sure how it is explicitly antisemitic.

    Look forward to an explanation.


    “I’m deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest shit now about western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those hordes of minorities that support flooding their country don’t exactly like them too much,” the second user wrote. “You want truth said to your face, there it is.”

    Shortly after, Musk replied, “You have said the actual truth.”
     
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    You’ve got right wingers calling for boycotts against every company that pull its ads
     
  13. wgbgator

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    Did you miss the part where he said Jews were pushing dialectal hatred of whites before that statement ?
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    Here are the issues in order:

    1. The tweet was in response to a tweet calling out those hiding behind anonymity to say "Hitler was right" in regards to his treatment of the Jewish population. That was the context in which the initial post was made.
    2. You left out the first part of the tweet. That part states "Jewish communties (sic) have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them."

    Stating that Jewish people as a whole (or "Jewish communities") have been pushing hatred against "whites" is obviously Anti-Semitic (by just about any definition of the word).

    3. The part you did post is a restatement of the White Replacement Theory as generally perpetuated by Anti-Jewish White Supremacists and White Nationalists. However, now, it comes with the twist of suggesting that this person would be okay with Jewish population if not for their support of, to use his words, flooding the country with minorities.

    In the full context, it is hard to argue that a defense of White Replacement Theory, immediately following an accusation that Jewish communities have been pushing "dialectic hatred against Whites," in response to a Tweet where somebody says to say something to his face rather than hiding behind anonymity to say "Hitler was right" is anything but Anti-Semitism.
     
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  15. l_boy

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    I guess I interpreted that to mean western Jews, who allegedly more left leaning, tend to support minority groups that tend to be hostile to whites and also to Jews themselves. More of an indirect unintended consequence vs an explicit intended consequence.

    An example would be one of the 33 Harvard groups supporting Palestinians after the attacked. Almost all of them had some sort of direct or indirect Palestinian or Muslim ties, except for one

    Thirty-three Harvard student groups sign joint letter blaming the war and its carnage on Israel

    Harvard Jews for Liberation
     
  16. l_boy

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    Thanks. That may very well be the case. However I read it more as I explained above - essentially saying Jews brought this on themselves by supporting minorities and international groups (via advocating multi culturalism - like Palestinians/muslims) that ended up blowing up in their faces. That has its own problems but doesn’t strike me as antisemitism is the primary motivator.

    Whatever the posters intent, I suspect that is how Musk read it, without really having a clue of the historical comparisons or the specifics of replacement theory.
     
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    What was the need for interpretation on your part? Nazis arent known for subtelty. I've seen conservatives on this board say teaching various texts promotes hatred of white people, they arent particularly subtle either.
     
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    That's the first time I've seen it referred to solely as X and not 'X, formerly twitter" so at least Musk has that minor victory
     
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  20. l_boy

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    I don’t understand your question. I saw the comments and I read them a certain way and wondered how it was antisemitism. That’s all.