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The dire consequences of COVID school closings

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Trickster, Nov 18, 2023.

  1. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    No; only the kids, who were safe from the virus. If they were smart, they would have just opened the doors in the morning for the kids and let them run the show. Teaching & schooling is an easy task, right? Just stick to the basics. ;)
     
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  2. l_boy

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    I just googled and found the article. I didn’t dig into it a lot. I wasn’t trying to misrepresent anything, other than to say some teachers died as a result of Covid including contracted at school, and that is a consideration that has to be acknowledged. The argument is always Covid doesn’t hurt kids, but there is no mention of the safety of the teachers. There may be better articles or better stats out there, I didn’t put a lot of effort into it.
     
  3. l_boy

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    As to lifestyle choices, sure, we should have emphasized to people to be more healthy, but let’s get real. Obesity causes diabetes and heart disease and all kinds of other ailments yet people are still obese. It’s unrealistic to think because of Covid everybody would go on a crash diet and lose 20 pounds.

    If it happened again we could just put Wegovy in the water supply.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    Covid fatality rate of teachers: 0
     
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  6. gator95

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    Again, was there a risk? Yes. Was it more than the surrounding community at large? No. So that is the answer. We knew this in July of 2020. Schools should've been open in the fall of 2020 to in person learning. No real argument any other way. The teachers unions held kids hostage for more money while saying it was for their safety. How Randi still has a job is beyond me.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Too many teachers were terrorized by the prospect of being around dirty little disease carriers.
     
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  8. tampagtr

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    Based on temperature settings but about teh best available data, and persuasive

    A study published yesterday in JAMA Network Open suggests that 70.4% of nearly 850,000 US household COVID-19 transmissions originated with a child.

    A team led by Boston Children's Hospital researchers gave smartphone-connected thermometers to 848,591 households with 1,391,095 members, who took 23,153,925 temperature readings from October 2019 to October 2022. Fevers were a proxy for infection.

    Of all readings, 57.7% were from adults. Most households (62.3%) reported temperatures from only one person, while 37.7% included multiple participants taking 51.6% of all readings. Most children were 8 years or younger (58.0%), and more females than males participated in each age group


    More than 70% of US household COVID spread started with a child, study suggests
     
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  9. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    But not discussing those impacts just furthers them.
     
  10. tilly

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    Someone isnt aware of how homeschool kids test out and do in college I see.

    (We have done it all, Home, Co-Op, Charter) my kids are all excellent students and the oldest lives in the deans list in college.

    Granted my wife has a Education degree and is a former teacher, but many of our friends have the exact same success without that background.

    Organization and a really good curriculum are key.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    It’s not so much that our municipal leaders thought it necessary, to tear out our park benches and ring the footprints with crime tape, it was that so many thought it was a necessary measure.
     
  12. WESGATORS

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    But nobody seeks to blame others for those issues.

    Go GATORS!
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  13. duggers_dad

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    The people dying from being fat myth will never die.
     
  14. WESGATORS

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    Child care vs. teachers...

    One of the reasons given was that more child care locations remained open in the Spring of 2020.

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  15. 92gator

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    Mixed feelings on this one. Was against closing schools down bc of the easily foreseeable side effectd to the kids. Understood it for the teachers n staff. Was and remain thoroughly impressed with how swiftly and effectively schools adjusted to such a profound change in the terrain.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Maybe it wasn’t a bad idea to shut down schools. Remember the tens of thousands of Spring Breakers who died because they hadn’t shut down the beaches ? And all the downtown homeless encampments that were wiped out ?
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    I can virtually guarantee that the decision makers have discussed the impacts at great length. Difference is, their perspectives are informed. Much of the complaining here is just shouting at the clouds.
     
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  18. tilly

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    We agree, but the OP is hardly someone fitting that category and I think its certainly worthy of discussion.
     
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  19. duggers_dad

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    I’m informed about niggling effects like losing my dream job, not being able to attend church or go to the gym, not being permitted to visit ailing family members in hospital or aging loved ones in nursing homes and the neighbor who couldn’t find anyone to perform a service for her deceased mother, inconveniences like that.
     
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  20. WESGATORS

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    Which complainers, the ones complaining that teachers/staff weren't given consideration or the ones complaining that children weren't given consideration? I suppose any complaining about things that already happens qualifies, but the ideas are still worthy of discussion as it helps people figure out what they'd like to see going forward.

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