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Violent thugs and hooligans brutally attack police officers in D.C.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by orangeblue_coop, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    While I appreciate you giving me a reason to look up and learn a new term, it doesn't actually apply here. His question was simple and direct. So let's not pretend.

     
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  2. Contra

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    That is your opinion. I explained why I posted what I did. It was very understandable. His response to my response very well could be sea-lioning. I answered his question, and I choose not to respond to any further questions demanding clarification from that poster.
     
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  3. flgator2

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    First Two Jan. 6 Appeals Reach Supreme Court | The Epoch Times

    If either or both of the petitions are accepted, it will be the first time a Jan. 6-related case is reviewed by the Supreme Court.

    The first case—Edward Jacob Lang, Petitioner v. United States—could impact hundreds of defendants accused of the most frequently charged Jan. 6 felony. Corruptly obstructing an official proceeding, which carries a potential 20-year prison term, has been charged in 317 cases, according to the latest DOJ tally.
    Dozens of Jan. 6 defendants have already been convicted under the law, which has never been used in such a way since it was implemented in 2002 as a means to curb corporate financial fraud.
     
  4. Contra

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    Bad analogy. A better analogy would be you suppressed the entire broadcast from being released so you could release a selection of the highlights in order to sculpt a very slanted and one sided narrative that the Gators won the game in a blow out. That would be wrong. And what happened here was wrong.

    Sure there are highlights you could point to from the Mizzou game to build that kind of narrative, but when you look at all of the evidence together collectively to argue such a thing is lying.

    We were lied to about January 6th because greedy corrupt Democrats (and even some Republicans) wanted more power.
     
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  5. flgator2

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  6. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Who exactly do you think had ‘suppressed’ this video?
     
  7. citygator

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    Ok.. so does all this new evidence convince you that there was no violence or break ins at the capitol? Did the stuff in Cheney’s tweet not happen? Were we lied to that all that happened?
     
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  8. Contra

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    The most effective lies usually contain partial truths in them. Kind of like in my example the Gators scored a lot of points yesterday. It is what is omitted that makes the narrative that the Gators won in a blow out a lie. Similarly, there are partial truths in the insurrection narrative.
     
  9. BLING

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    Umm… we already knew Capitol police basically “let people go” after removing them from the building, rather than arresting them on the spot.

    No idea who that one dude is, or if he was ever re-arrested. But that often happens at protests/riots/looting events. The cops miss out on the actual troublemakers, and instead arrest or detain the stragglers still left at the scene. In this case they hardly even did that, they basically let everyone go. Nobody was arrested “unjustly”. The only people arrested were done so after the fact and w/ a preponderance of specific evidence against them. Nothing unjust about that. The only thing unique (vs other riot situations) is how well videotaped it was and how much resources went into sorting through all that. Some people required tracking down, others basically bragged on social media.
     
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  10. orangeblue_coop

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    Just when you thought that contingent couldn’t get any more pathetic.
     
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  11. BLING

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    A better analogy would be showing video from a concourse area of a stadium of people standing around doing nothing or looking bored, and trying to convince everyone this proves a football game never happened.

    There is no “collective narrative” to be had from cameras that might not have picked up the same actions as those that obviously did. If a guy robs a bank and is shown on cameras doing so, if there are cameras in a different part of the bank that don’t pick him up, that doesn’t invalidate that there was a robbery or prove the guy didn’t rob the bank. It just shows different stuff happening in different areas.

    I’d say this is one of the most bizarre narrative shift attempts I’ve seen pushed in kookie internet circles. But then again just a few days ago we had some congressmen claiming “ghost buses” of FBI agents actually led the insurrection. :emoji_joy:
     
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  12. enviroGator

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    Get help. Seriously.
     
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  13. Gator515151

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    Ray Epps is enjoying this thread.
     
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  14. orangeblue_coop

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    The craziest part is the same contingent who believes this stuff has the nerve to cry about the media being “fake news” LOL. I really hate human beings sometimes.
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    What are the lies in the insurrection narrative?
     
  16. orangeblue_coop

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    All the MAGA patriots who got sentenced are also enjoying reading this thread from their prison cells
     
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  17. Gator515151

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    Yeah they really showed Ray when they charged him with a misdemeanor'
     
  18. orangeblue_coop

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    I’m just glad the MAGA losers who participated in this insurrection are locked up for a long time. Aren’t you?
     
  19. GatorJMDZ

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    He's from Arizona and then moved to Utah. I doubt he reads GatorCountry.

    Based on what he did, what was the appropriate charge?
     
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  20. PITBOSS

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    He supposedly plead guilty.
    Just to catch people up, Epps is one of the bigger right wing conspiracies that he was a gov agent.

    He is now suing Fox for “years long campaign that spread falsehoods that “destroyed” the lives of Epps and his wife,”

    Hopefully Fox News will learn their lesson. Especially after they paid Dominion Voting Systems $800M for promoting those false stories.


    Pro-Trump protester Ray Epps files defamation suit against Fox News
     
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