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What's happening in DeSantistan 2.0

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_lawyer, Jun 9, 2023.

  1. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Wow. Just wow. No words
     
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  2. BossaGator

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    that’s the criminal statute. The civil suit provision is here:

    42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights
     
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  3. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Felt so much rage reading this. These people attacking education and books in Florida are evil.

     
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  4. tripsright

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    Nah…..they’re the self-proclaimed good christians of the world.
    To be clear, I 100% agree with you.
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    Here's the bad news, judge-made immunities for prosecutors (usually absolute) and cops (qualified) would likely prevent you from recovering. (The state has sovereign immunity.)
     
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  6. GatorJMDZ

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    Prosecutors can be reported to The Florida Bar.
     
  7. gator_lawyer

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    Sorry, the Florida Bar is too busy violating the First Amendment rights of attorneys who criticized a judge on social media to do anything about misbehaving prosecutors. (In case you can't tell, I hold the Florida Bar in very low esteem.)
     
  8. homer

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    Does it include both civil and criminal?
     
  9. gator_lawyer

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    Civil only. But prosecutors going after their own is extraordinarily rare and unlikely.
     
  10. citygator

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    Looks like Ron wants to force the capital and FSU to take confederate statues back to their original locations and wants any future attempt to be punishable by law anywhere on public property.

    Taking down Confederate monuments in Florida could be punished

    Gov. Ron DeSantis would have the authority to remove and fine any elected official involved in the taking down of Confederate and other historical memorials in the state under a bill filed for the next legislative session.

    The measure (HB 395), filed last week by state Rep. Dean Black, R-Jacksonville, also would require the state to pay the costs to find a new location for and publicly display the statue of Confederate Gen. Edmund Kirby Smith that stood in the U.S. Capitol for nearly a century, representing Florida.

    That statue was removed from the Capitol's National Statuary Hall and replaced last year by one of legendary civil-rights activist and educator Mary McLeod Bethune, one of the namesakes of what is now Bethune-Cookman University, the historically Black institution of higher education in Daytona Beach.

    The bill, if passed and signed into law, would lead to "elected officials" being removed from office and attach fines and damages to any "person or entity" who "remove(s) a monument or memorial displayed on public property." Also, individuals who deface or damage monuments and memorials would face up to $5,000 in fines.
     
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  11. ajoseph

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    I’m pretty sure you’re referring to §1983, and these cases are VERY difficult to win, or even get to a trial, for that matter.
     
  12. PITBOSS

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    Playing to the base. maga do love their culture wars
     
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  13. docspor

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    nothing screams conservatism like centralizing BIG GOV power.
     
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  14. rivergator

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    Let me get this straight. If a local government - a city or county - in Florida wants to remove any kind of historical marker or statue on the city or county's property, it has to get the governor's OK?
    Seriously?
     
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  15. ajoseph

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    Welcome to autocracy
     
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  16. tampagtr

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    Next step is subsidized lawn jockeys and laws overriding HOAs that prohibit them
     
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  17. docspor

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    radical commie Pubs in Fla will be pushin' a bill to establish a Chy-na Ron appointed Ministry of Entertainment to stop this.

    Pop singer Pink will give away 2,000 banned books at Miami area concerts this week | CNN

    Pink will give away 2,000 banned books at her South Florida shows this week in partnership with the literary and free expression advocacy group PEN America.

    Fans who attend the Miami and Sunrise, Florida, stops of the singer-songwriter’s “Trustfall Tour” Tuesday and Wednesday will receive a copy of some of the books that have appeared on PEN America’s Index of Banned Books.

    “I’m a voracious reader, and I’m a mom of two kids who are also voracious readers,” Pink said during a livestream on Instagram on Sunday. “And I can’t imagine my own parents telling me what my kids can and cannot read, let alone someone else’s parents, let alone someone else that doesn’t even have children that are deciding what my children can read.”
     
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  19. Gator40

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    Desantis denied. He's been getting that a lot lately. He better brace for more. Not sure the snowflake can take it.
     
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  20. tampagtr

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    It is preliminary and does not guarantee ultimate success. But unlike the Fifth Circuit, I suspect the Eleventh Circuit will get the hint, although little language was used..
     
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