Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Well let’s see.. Duchen is clearly pro Israel.. so if wgb is the on the other side he is clearly pro Hamas. ( Which several of his posts support).
One side is defends Israel at all costs. One side thinks Hamas hiding in children’s hospitals so they get bombed is funny.

 

Duchen’s position is that Israel does no wrong. WGB’s position is that Israel does no right. Neither of them are correct.

 

Can you point to the posts where wgb expressed support for Hamas (not Palestinians, Hamas)?

 

Video reports to show Hamas firing on civilians fleeing children's hospital

Harrowing video shows Palestinian civilians being shot at — apparently by Hamas snipers — while trying to flee a pediatric cancer hospital where terrorists have barricaded themselves against the ongoing ground assault by Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip.

Footage posted on X Friday shows families walking onto a side street waving white flags before gunfire is heard, sending the crowd scrambling for shelter while a child can be heard crying.

Media intelligence agency Storyful confirmed that the video was recorded at the al-Nasr Pediatric Hospital based on Google Maps images, but was unable to say whether the terror group or Israeli forces was responsible.

Independent journalist Alexander Higgins reported on X that jihadists began shooting after Israeli forces agreed to allow civilians to evacuate the hospital.

 

Footage of Hamas shooting RPG from Al Quds Hospital

 

Israeli military says it killed Hamas fighters "embedded" among civilians at Gaza’s Al-Quds Hospital

The Israeli military said on Monday it had killed a group of Hamas fighters “embedded” among civilians at Gaza’s Al-Quds Hospital after its troops were fired on from the hospital entrance.

“During operations carried out by the 188th Brigade, RPG fire and small arms fire were directed at the soldiers from the direction of the Al-Quds Hospital in Gaza City,” the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement. “The shooting was carried out by a terrorist squad that had embedded itself within a group of civilians at the entrance of the hospital.”
The IDF said its forces fired towards the fighters, some of whom were killed in the exchange.

“During the incident, approximately 21 terrorists were killed and there were no casualties to our forces,” the IDF said

 

It’s pretty crazy. If you say something that’s even the slightest bit critical of Israel you’re a terrorist lover.

 

Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics


A US official with knowledge of American intelligence says Hamas has a command node under the Al-Shifa hospital, uses fuel intended for it and its fighters regularly cluster in and around Gaza’s largest hospital.

 

I posted links about four different hospitals tonight. Other links upthread about children's parks, schools, UNRWA schools, the Jabayliya refugee camp, mosques.

Very few of those posts are ever addressed directly, except for "we don't know who to believe."

A few pages go by, and then is back to the same "well both sides are bad."

 

We all know Hamas are despicable pieces of shit who should die for what they've done. Nobody is disputing that. Nobody is suspired they are using hospitals to hide their weapons and soldiers - why would we be given the atrocities they committed on the 7th?

I'm not sure what that has to do with you being unable to admit that Israel has played any role whatsoever in the creation of a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

 

When a poster claims that what Israel is doing right now is ethnic cleansing they are parroting Hamas propaganda .When they then claim that the evidence Israel is producing against Hamas is not real and just propaganda they are parroting the Hamas talking points. That’s not just supporting Palestinians.

 

I am Not interested in a semantic debate that draws any comparisons between Israel and Hamas. I posted a video of a Hamas terrorist shooting an RPG from a hospital. Silence about that post. And then you post this. So, israel is not not supposed to shoot back? Just let the terrorists keep shooting at them? And shooting back makes Israel responsible for creating the humanitarian crises? What a lack of clarity.

 

'Shooting back' is one thing. Dropping a bomb on a hospital is another. You've already said repeatedly that you're unwilling to sacrifice any Israeli soldiers lives via a ground invasion to spare the lives of Palestinian civilians that would otherwise be killed in bombings. And that basically, because Hamas are deplorable pieces of shit hiding amongst the civilians, the civilians have to die.

Honest question I'd like you to answer straight up. Do you hate Palestinians? Not Hamas, but Palestinians? I'm sure many of them hate you. Do you hate them back?

 

Israel has not dropped a bomb in a hospital. One was hit when they dropped a bomb on the street next to it and a wall collapsed. And, no, I don’t hate Palestinians. I empathize with what many go through having to go through checkpoints and walls etc because of the need for Israel to avoid terrorism like the last two intifadas. Fact is. I don’t have to answer questions like that, but I will. When did I ever say that civilians had to die? Hamas can move away from civilian populations. But they won’t. The deaths are the inevitable result of Hamas’ choice to put civilians in harms way. So I will ask this question? Do you expect more Jews to die hunting Hamas in order to avoid the death of Hamas human shields? How many? What is an acceptable number of deaths? In the same situation, what would be be an acceptable number of US servicemen deaths?

 

You didn’t specifically say “civilians have to die” you’ve said “what else can Israel do?!” a million different ways. Which is the same thing.

With regards to not hating Palestinians - good on you. I probably would if I were you.

 

And no I don’t expect more Jews to die. What a silly thing to suggest. I would expect Israel to stop bombing at some point and use some troops if they really give a shit about sparing Palestinian lives. Basically you’ve decided that Hamas dying is more important than Palestinian children living. Israeli troops are more important to you than Palestinian civilians. Which is perfectly understandable. I just feel like you can’t admit that.

 

Some limited positive news

 

Israeli troops are more important to me than Palestinian civilians to me. I wish no one but Hamas died but this is war so I will side with the group that didn't rape, kidnap and kill innocent children totally unprovoked.

What I find interesting is all the protests about freeing Palestine or calling for a ceasefire, I have seen almost zero people who are protesting calling for the hostages to be released. It's almost like they don't give a crap about the hostages...

 

I 100% see your point. I just haven’t read anything posted that indicates any support for Hamas. I really don’t think that’s the intent of what anyone has written.

 

Clearly, because it wouldn't be pretty for Israel!