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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Nov 13, 2023.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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    Very sad story. The article in the OP mentions another incident in which an 11 year old girl had acid thrown in her face on the playground. Jesus.
     
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  2. uftaipan

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    You’re absolutely right. We need to pass some laws against “attempted murder,” “assault and battery,” or the like so we don’t have to wait until a victim dies to start rounding up the culprits.
     
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  3. citygator

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    Im curious. I dont necessarily think your OP passes the test. What is it you are looking to debate, or discuss? There are lots of tragic crimes. Why this one?

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  4. Gator515151

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    I'm not going to respond to JMDZ's response because I truly did not want dirt throwing to be part of this thread but I will respond to yours because of a rather nasty attitude someone has.
    Yes I do wonder about the wrong things, I was being nice when I said I wondered if your fistbump was accidental. I knew all along it was intentional. We know how you are.
     
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  5. dangolegators

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    Don't you guys worry. Arrests will be made. And I bet they will be made in a lot less time than it took the authorities in Georgia to arrest Ahmaud Arbery's obvious murderers.
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    If you didn't want that you shouldn't have made your OP so political.
     
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  7. ridgetop

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    I get that! Been there. Sorry for the heated reply.. this story hits close to home.
     
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  9. uftaipan

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    I acknowledge your point. Do you acknowledge mine that it’s silly to assert you have to wait until a victim dies before charging the suspects with any crime?
     
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  10. l_boy

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    I don’t recall any thread here ever being questioned purely based on relevancy. Why are you questioning this one?

    If 15 kids beat up and kill a kid regardless of color that is News in relevance to the horrific nature of the crime and this overall issue on bullying.

    If 15 white kids killed a black kid there would already be riots on the streets.

    I can’t say whether race was involved but if the 15 attackers are black and victim white, I’d be shocked if race wasn’t involved.
     
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  11. UFLawyer

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    All of them. Felony Murder.
     
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  12. l_boy

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    yeah the post seeming to assert you can’t arrest anybody after somebody is attacked until the victim is dead was one of the more puzzling ones I’ve seen On the forum.
     
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  13. l_boy

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    Are you serious?
     
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  14. kygator

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    I would hope that you wouldn’t have to. Otherwise you can just murder anyone if you have enough people participating.
     
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  15. dangolegators

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    Sure. Charges could be made before the victim dies. But I'd guess the authorities in Nevada want to have a really good idea of who to charge before they start arresting Black people in a highly publicized politically-charged case.
     
  16. Gator515151

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    We too had an incident very similar to this with our oldest son and bullys taking lunch money about 40 years back. I won't get into it here but was quite scary what could have happened.
     
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  17. GatorJMDZ

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    Seriously? There are sound and compelling reasons to wait to file charges if you think the victim might succumb to their injuries. First, you don't want speedy trial to start running and Nevada has an exceptionally short one. Second, if you charge someone with "assault and battery" and a suspect pleads guilty to it, you've created a potential double jeopardy issue that might prevent the State from upping the charges after the victim dies.
     
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  18. PITBOSS

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    Awful.

    “We have been given a statement from our son's girlfriend that what occurred was that one of his smaller friends had something stolen by this group of 15 and they threw the small boy in the trash can and our son confronted them and he was attacked by them. He's a courageous young man."
     
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  19. PITBOSS

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    Not rhetorical but isn’t that how it works? If a gang of people punch and kill someone, they are all culpable. Not just the person who’s punch killed him. Which I doubt can be determined. Why wouldn’t they be? Accessory to murder is a serious offense. The defense might go for manslaughter vs 2nd murder or even self defense. But people go to prison for a long time if they unintentionally kill someone in a bar fight with just a punch or two.
     
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  20. GatorJMDZ

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    I posted Nevada's principal statute in post #18.
     
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