Even if there were no overarching pressure from the conferences based on potential payouts and protecting their “sacred cows” (which I highly doubt), there’s enough money out there to influence any ref on an individual level. So although moving away from conference refs may be a good step for show, it will do little to effectively change how the game is called. We need a transparent system tracking all these subjective calls (PI, holding, unsportsmanlike conduct, etc.) for each ref and some kind of review/accountability system for missing or errant calls. It's idealistic, I realize, but I don't see how anything will change as long as there are subjective calls in the game.
And that call was at a critical juncture of the game. I think that’s where we lost our momentum. If spurrier was our coach he’d send that play to the sec office for a review and explanation.
I agree that the best system is one which aligns individual (ref) and group (sport) incentives, which would reward refs for correct calls. As you note, a major challenge to this goal would be that some calls are inherently subjective, so who can we trust to tell us when a call has been missed?
Absolutely critical. It was a huge 3rd down conversion and ours is in striking distance of taking the lead back. It was an absolute shock and a killer. But I do find myself wondering why it always seems like Jackson is having to dive or jump out of the stadium to catch balls thrown his way.
If he doesn’t dive, he catches the ball in stride and keeps running. Nothing to review. Spurrier’s coaches worked on this daily with his receivers. You can’t get there faster by diving than you can by running. Just run under it. If a ball is low or you’re coming back to it, it one thing, but a ball over your shoulder like the one in question, just keep running. Same thing on all the crossing routes that are chest or even helmet high that guys jump and leap for. Just run and grab it and keep going. You lose your momentum when you jump and you get no YAC if you dive. It’s hard to coach and takes a lot of work. Your brain tells you to jump and dive, but it’s VERY often the wrong move. It’s like diving into first base. You cannot get there faster than if you just keep running.
I know the second player to throw a punch gets called for the foul, but why, especially when the ref sees both punches thrown? Where is the logic in that? Should be a penalty on both. I guarantee if the Gator player had thrown the first punch, he would still have been called for the penalty.
Well if you look back at all my posts I mentioned that at least once. That post was in response to a poster who swore the ball never touched the ground… But I don’t think he had total control through the entire play as you can see the ball sliding around while he was on his back.
The point was as the one photo up thread shows him with the ball fully outside the end zone. If that’s the maximum point of forward progress it’s not a safety.
I thought that as well, thus it was a catch, and the video did not show that he didn’t have possession prior to hitting the ground thus it should not have been overturned.
It would not be considered a fumble as he has to maintain possession through contact with the ground for it to be considered a catch and then fumble. What you are talking about occurs when a runner has clearly had possession and made a move prior to hitting the ground. At that point the ground cannot cause a fumble.
“Forced to sit down with his superiors and explain it”? Hell, he was in all likelihood acting as directed by his superiors. This isn’t human error folks, the refs are corrupt to the core
Fired by who? The replay is their tool. It’s damn near impossible to get a replay wrong, yet it has become commonplace the last few years. Between cheating, the double standard around cheating, NIL, and the organized crime family of crooked refs, I’ve just about had it with college football. Last weekend I did not watch one snap of any college football game and it made for a great weekend. No screaming at the terrible momentum-changing calls, no heartbreak. It was lovely and I’m planning to tune out this weekend too. I can get used to this
He doesn’t have to see shit on that little screen. Why do you think he’s wearing headphones? He doesn’t need them to make the call, all he needs them for is to rule as instructed by Birmingham
Reminds me of back during the Zook years. Tennessee player slaps Dallas Baker, he retaliated and flag comes out. We got hit with the PF. I want to say that was during Zook’s last year here (2004?)
When they are called makes so much more difference than how many. Against Utah, you couldn’t have called penalties at a worse time. I’m not saying it’s fixed but facts are facts.
Absolutely. A well-timed momentum killer can potentially make the difference in the game. They tend to do this early in the game like they did to us against Ga with that horrible call — so then they can hit the other team a few times to make it look even. They’re crooked as hell and know exactly what they’re doing
