It was posted prior to 2020. I know that because I remember talking about it with one of my co workers before I moved back to Gainesville. Don’t know exactly how much before 2020.
Is it where contact is initiated of where the player is blown dead? Forward progress being given? What if he is wrestling trying to escape and goes backwards? Is the spot to the maximum point of froward progress?
We can figure it out fairly easily but the guys that do it for a living somehow go against public opinion on what is obvious because we are feeble minded and they are far superior at making basic deductions than we could ever be. They have stripped clothes and we don’t.
It's no different than any other play, spot of maximum forward progress once contact is initiated that leads to the play being called dead. In this case, I'm focusing on the point of initial contact because from that point on, Travis goes backwards so forward progress will be at that initial contact. If Travis wrestled free and continued the play moving backward, he loses the previous forward progress since that contact didn't lead to the stoppage of play
Does it not matter that Travis' momentum was going towards the endzone prior to the contact? The funny thing is, to me, Miami may have benefited by not having had the safety called. They got better field position (basically started in FG range) and otherwise may not have gotten a FGA off. The other questionable thing, to me, is that they spotted the ball 2 feet off the goal line; it was much closer than that. Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
I'm not saying it's rigged, but there's a presumption to be had either way: Yours - presume that the motivation for calls is integrity Others - presume that the motivation for calls is financial in nature I haven't seen you present the evidence that would suggest the refs gain favor by calling things accurately even if it means a disadvantage to the SEC's financial interest. One thing we can hopefully agree on is that there's a nonzero chance that the refs are biased, and there's a nonzero chance that the refs are vulnerable to financial motivations. In terms of why the SEC wants to promote LSU over FLORIDA (*if* that were to be the case) is simple: The Heisman. It's a fact that no Heisman trophy winner since 1969 has played for a team that has had 4 or more losses. I've seen gamblers latch on to refs with a tell; incompetence, honest/acceptable mistakes, or malicious intentions? Probably prudent to consider all options until you know any can be ruled out. I am typically much more forgiving to the guys on the field making the call in the moment. Those plays are harder to call than they look. It's the mysterious ones that I'm for bringing the hammer down on (replays or odd decisions made on the field not related to the speed of the game). Would love to allow coaches to request accountability of specific calls and have the actual officials provide some sort of official statement or publicly revealed review. Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
The more games we watch, the more clearly we can see what’s going on in the background. Oftentimes, calls go both ways early as to keep the game close. The game being close increases the refs’ influence later in the game when it matters. Of course any game changing plays of significance will be negated if it isn’t favoring the league’s desired outcome. We were on the favorable end against Arkansas (as UF being bowl eligible was more desirable than Arky getting to 3 wins) and the refs gave us every chance to win. We fluffed an extra point, committed an egregious penalty that took it out of the refs’ hands and missed the game winning FG. We can also see evidence of us getting favorable calls most noticeably against USF last year. Without the SEC refs, we lose that game. Having said that, I think the SEC is one of the worst as far as this is concerned. I’ve watched PAC XII and Big XII games and their refs don’t seem to be in bed with their league office as much. I may be wrong.
I don't think it matters that he was moving backwards. I totally agree on the last part though, if not a safety the ball should have been like 6 inches off the goal line. Just like the bogus spot UF got against UGA, where they spotted UF a whole yard short of the first down when it was clearly much closer to the line to gain.
You must be young. Let me tell you a story called "How Instant Replay Was Made." In a time long ago and far away, this noble team from middle Central Florida and north of Ocala was playing football against a rather middling team from the cesspools of Westernish Florida. The problem was that the cesspool team had this coach with a wide hat and a "quaint" way of cussing and tying it to the Lord. It really wasn't his problem, it was his followers, his conference affiliations especially, who thought he was sort of a deity. Anyways, this middling team in a less-than-middling conference needed some kind of boost to assist in getting up to a-bit-more-than-middling. But what to do, when staring at this noble team? They decided (who this is remains a "mystery") that they would use the social degenerates known the referees of this conference to "assist" in their endeavors. Now mind you, calling them thieves is in BAD form. You know, it isn't a crime to be blind if you are not looking in the correct location. It may be selective blindness but it isn't blatant...allegedly. Anyways, the "assists" were effective, the noble team was "slain" and the man with the wide hat rode off into the sunset saying God gave him a miracle. Well, a miracle that instant replay had not yet been made. Because, if it HAD, then the "blind" refs would be shown what happened where they were not looking before. And since they are NOT thieves...allegedly...they would be compelled to correct their "mistakes". And then instant replay was made and the world was again "normal." Well, normal except for some refs who have gotten more stupid...allegedly. But that is a different story for another day.
It's nice to see you have come out into the light. Reality can be unpleasant sometimes, but denying it doesn't make it go away. Love your sense of hyperbole.
Beg to disagree. The call on the field was a completed pass. Must have indisputable evidence to overturn the call. The fact that you and I disagree about the video evidence proves dispute. Call should have stood as completed.
SOS teams got penalties..I remember, think it was Eric Rhett..penalty because after scoring, he celebrated/directed our band..believe it was the miss. state game ...ut never got penalties for this... We even got one for the band playing...got penalties that never saw called on other teams too
This is one of the things that made Spurrier great. He knew the history at UF like the back of his hand. He knew how the rest of the SEC and the refs felt about UF "not belonging" in the SEC. He knew he had to have teams that could score enough to take the refs out of the equation. Sadly too many of his successors fail to know anything about UF's history that might be helpful to their success (including administrators).
This will be an unpopular opinion here I'm sure, but the way I saw it, it was the right call... It was close, but I saw the ball hit the ground and move just a little. That being said, I was really, really, really drunk by that point... The thing that really bothers me with us isn't necessarily the reviews themselves, but what/when gets reviewed. Purely anecdotal, but it seems that whenever the opposing team has a close play like that, the booth NEVER reviews it, and the other team gets away with it. But when it's a close play with the Gators, it ALWAYS gets reviewed. Anyone else notice this?
We should’ve hurried up to the line and snapped it instead of allowing them time to call a booth timeout to review.
I remember when either Ike or Reidel lined up for a play and were penalized 5 yards for "Equipment Violation". One of their pants legs had slid up over their knee on the previous play and they didn't pull it back down before lining up.
