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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by TWGator, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. gatorbate91

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    Lol. Don’t think Kiffy would show up to that party.
     
  2. 62gator

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    Easy Ridder has a fully guaranteed sizable 2-3yr contract, some estimates have it at $2mil per. That lucky bastad just fell into a fat retirement slush fund.

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  3. Wanne15

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    That’s generational wealth problems. Those guys probably shit millions and it doesn’t affect their lifestyle at all. I don’t think we can really wrap our heads around that one properly
     
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  4. Wanne15

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    He does look like a bitch but looks can be deceiving.
     
  5. gator_n_sc

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    I agree with you that kiffin has grown up a bit but the "it's ole miss" excuse I don't believe is legit these days. They are a SEC West school who gets good national attention, has a well known coach, has recruited and used portal well, of course it does take some time to catch up to the depth and overall talent of Bama and UGA but then again Freeze beat Bama twice at Ole Miss so if Kiffin was able to pull that off this year ole Miss would be in contention for the playoffs regardless if they are Ole Miss or not.

    Just being in the SEC will basically punch your ticket to a spot in the CFP if you can just navigate the many pitfalls the conference has to offer and just win more than the rest
     
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  6. gator_n_sc

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    Can you imagine if they really did hire petrino? The fan base would burn the place down,
     
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  7. Wanne15

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    Sure I believe he could catch lightning in a bottle here and there but ol miss will never be able to provide the talent that the big boys do year in and year out. It’s kinda legendary that Freeze was able to beat Bama twice. Had he not got railroaded, he would never have been able to build the Bama or Georgia machine there, they just can’t afford to be the Yankees of college football.
     
  8. Wanne15

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    The boosters would let the check bounce. Boosters run college football, not the schools. The schools can shut it down but they can’t make it run.
     
  9. gator_n_sc

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    Yes but haven't even won the conference in 26 years let alone any post season success or hardware. At some point, those big money guys get tired throwing large amounts of money at losing endeavors. Even worse now with all the other pay for play money chest they have to contribute to. And with it being legal now it's allowed the P4P market prices to continually sky rocket.


    Note: quoted wrong post lmao. Ws suppose to be the "they shit millions" post . :confused:
     
  10. Wanne15

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    I can’t pretend to be able to understand throwing 30 mil at something and it not affect my life. If I drop 5k it has major ripples. I’m wondering if I can afford to see the Eagles in New Orleans in Feb
     
  11. Brodeur

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    Here's the full list of coaches not named Nick Saban who have won the SEC West in the last decade: Ed Orgeron, Gus Malzahn. I just don't think that's a fair bar to hold coaches to while Saban has his dynasty going, except at maybe LSU. So up until now, I think the "it's Ole Miss" excuse holds up fairly well. Even Hugh Freeze never sniffed Atlanta.

    One interesting thing the expanded CFP playoff will bring is better recognition for teams that finish top 10 but don't win their conference. Right now, with rare exception those seasons top out at winning something like the Cotton Bowl or Sugar Bowl which doesn't carry the weight it used to for a number of reasons. Moving forward, that's a playoff birth (with possibility of hosting a game) which will feel like much more of an accomplishment and something coaches like Kiffin can point to for seasons like this where they are very good but fall short against national title contenders like Bama and UGA.
     
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  12. Claygator

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    I'm pretty sure if you knew any Ole Miss fans they wouldn't say he is a huge failure. Quite the opposite, actually.
     
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    After watching aTm’s AD in the press conference, and knowing already what a jerk Fisher is, I would not be a bit surprised if Jimbo and the AD have bumped heads on occasion. We know Jimbo thinks a lot of himself but he wasn’t going to win with attitude vs. the school leadership. The AD appeared to be cocky, too.
     
  14. gatorbate91

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    Kirby is about to tarnish the current legacy for Saban a bit more. Bama will get smoked in Atlanta and I really don’t see anybody that can beat Ga to prevent the 3 peat.
     
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  16. gatorpa

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    Just curious did you go back and regrade Mac’s classes the way you did Mullen’s?
     
  17. tommyvee

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    Of course. The classes are always graded on how well they perform.
     
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  18. gatorpa

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    So, let’s see those stats, I haven’t seen any posts about how well Mac’s classes graded out.
    Not being snarky, truly curious.
     
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    I don’t have this info, but I can see the talent we have had and I can see which coach was responsible for recruiting these guys to UF. Of course Mullen had his moments (especially early in his tenure), but him checking out the last year is a huge part of our talent issue today.
     
  20. Sulla

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    True. Here's my take on all of this, first on Ole Miss specifically as an example and then going back to A&M. The TL;DR is that a lot of you seem unable to wrap your heads around this not being the 90s or 00s any more generally in the SEC.

    Beating LSU this year the way Ole Miss did was huge for them. That's a game they lose every time historically. Throwing an Auburn win in at Jordan Hare and an A&M win in another game they would almost always lose historically just reinforced the LSU win. Everyone around here was expecting an 8-win season at most, so the chances of finishing the year with 10 wins (again) is just wild, Georgia and Alabama being what they are.

    Ole Miss also has a way better NIL collective than I think most people know backed by some guys with serious money, nor do they probably know how much money they are spending on coaches these days.

    That doesn't necessarily mean everything - Arkansas has quite a bit more money than people outside of the area think, as well along with a much stouter NIL collective than I think people recognize. It doesn't translate directly to success, but y'all tend to assume a lot of teams are poors, at least financially, who really aren't. Lane is getting paid $9 million a year. Weis Jr. is getting $1.4 million a year, and Pete Golding is getting $1.9 million. That's hardly second tier money. Arkansas isn't paying quite that much for coaches, but it's not far off, and even closer to UF.

    So, you know, y'all should get hip to the fact that the better part of the SEC is a "have" not a "have-not" these days, at least much more so than even 10 years ago. I think Mississippi State is the only school who actually cares about football who is getting completely left behind by everyone else at this point. The question is does all that money translate into top tier coaches and recruits? At Ole Miss, it hasn't translated to the recruiting classes needed to really challenge Bama and LSU consistently, and it honestly may never. Per capita, Mississippi put more players in the NFL last year than Florida did, but you can't get past sheer volume. Geography and demographics blessed Florida with an advantage that money can't buy, so that is one strength we still have even with all of the other changes.

    At A&M, a school also blessed with great geographically-related demographics, money didn't translate into getting coaches who could do anything with the embarrassment of talent they got to come to College Station in recent years.
     
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