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Jackson: Catch - No Catch

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Rkb75, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. zman-1

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    Never touched the ground.
     
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  2. GatorRade

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    I covered this above, noting that that fact actually goes against the hypothesis of the conference protecting its top teams:

     
  3. GatorRade

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    I appreciate it. A difference between a skeptic and a denier is that a skeptic welcomes contrary evidence. Again, I would be happy to revisit my conclusion in the light of new evidence.
     
  4. gatorpa

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    Yep, it was tough to see the ball touch the ground on my 70”, couldn’t tell if it was after he had possession or not regardless. Ergo no indisputable evidence.

    No PF was the worst however. Dude was 10 yards OOB and got driven into the bench.

    I don’t think there is a conspiracy however.
     
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  5. gatorpa

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    Actually on replay it did, question is wether he had possession before it did, which the reply did not show that he did not have possession before it did.
     
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  6. gatordavisl

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    Strawman fallacy ;)
     
  7. AgingGator

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    What better way for the ACC to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Swindle in the Swamp!
     
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  9. Claygator

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    Nope. But everyone who followed the gators through the '80's, '90's and so on were well aware of it. I certainly was. Not gonna waste my time proving to you what I know to be true.

    Your five year lookback link doesn't cut it friend. Those of us who have been around a while know.
     
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  10. zman-1

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    Watched the same replays, an NO, it didn't touch the ground. Even the broadcast duo did not say that it did. They were too busy discussing ball movement, even though Jackson was on his back and it was moving across his chest without touching the ground.
     
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  11. gatorpa

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    Here is a picture of the ball touching the ground after he initially hits the ground. I even circled the ball….

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  12. gatorbreeder

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    On the front facing view you can clearly see the ball moving as it touches the ground.
     
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  13. vaxcardinal

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    There’s no evidence of that. I’ve followed the games since the 80s as well and don’t see how anyone can come up with that conclusion since who has time to watch all the games. I asked Google and the first link shows 5 years. Since you claim decades and have no proof I’ll assume you’re just making stuff up
     
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  14. MCB51

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    I have followed the Gators from Graves to current...we have always been heavily penalized...no matter who our coach was...I have someone that may have the stats some are asking for..I will see if he will provide the info and will post it
     
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  15. easycoastgator

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    Yep. Run to the line. Snap the ball. I knew the game was probably over when we didn’t do that and the review stopped play
     
  16. gatorpa

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    Tough thing as I noted up thread it seems like he had possession until he hit the ground, used to be the ground can’t cause the fumble.
    I still don’t see how the video showed indisputable evidence.
     
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  17. iam4uf

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    After reviewing the video, it appears that Jackson fulfilled all three of these conditions from the NCAA rule book:
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    The rules further state "If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground" and in the event of "a slight movement of the ball, even if it touches the ground, will not be considered loss of possession". I don't see where Jackson failed in this area either or failed enough to overturn the call.
     
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  18. easycoastgator

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    I’m with you, and I’m beating a dead horse, but a snapped ball prevents the red stick refs from pounding us, at least on that play
     
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    Birmingham stole it. Paul Finebaum stole it!! We were robbed.
     
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  20. tommyvee

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    That FSU safety was definitely influenced by $ for the potential ACC playoff team. We are gonna have our hands full with these refs in the Swamp.
     
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